Violentvole Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 Well. I suppose this thread says it all. This forum has gone from lots of active people and friend making to....tumbleweeds. And it doesn't take a genius to see what that coincided with. There are a lot of very skint people out there right now who gave their all to do this ' event '. Double XP doesn't cut it as a sorry. Even now, 2 albinos in a full game night...what's that, 2 real hours? They were the easy ones a few days ago, now, staring at motionless float and vamps all over again. If I can't get 100 of each despite money not being an issue, and having 5 days a week off work, how is your average gamer supposed to? The game is fantastic, such a shame to see it brought down so. This forum was fantastic too. But now, most people are disillusioned and have scattered. And that is not as a result of me posting, it's a result of an impossible event and losing all they have. If you want to blame me for bringing it up and ban me, that's fine. But remember one thing - I didn't code the game. That was all you. And you severely disappointed a large majority of your players. 0.53%. Really? It's a brilliant game and I commend you and thank you for giving it to us. But you've alienated almost everyone. All you have to do is search this forum to find people stating ' I ran out of of money/bait '. Double XP to make up for lost money and baitcoins doesn't cut it. Here I am in Florida, been fishing since 9pm in a known gar spot. Now 11-20pm, not 1 bite. How is that an ' event '? Sorry guys, this one was a major flop and lost you players, and therefore revenue. 5 1 1 1 Quote
Pierre Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 Agree 💯 % Im a working dad and gets about 1 to 2 hours game time aday, and with the bite rate the fish had been giving us it would have taken me months to finish 1 challenge not the less 3 of them. I do injoy the game but its time the devs and mods seriously need to start listening to the community. I understand its a free game and you need a income somehow, and events and events packs are perfect but you devs also need to take the lv40 players into consideration as they wont buy packs that has lower equipment than ingame equipment. The gane started of with a bang but has taken a toll for the worst these past few days, and by look of things its not getting better. Just my insight on everything and with violentvole, ban us it wont make the problem go away 3 Quote
Rodrigoskybox Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 Well, i agree with forum is dead, we want allow picture and they dont permited. I delete all my attachement and continue saying i dont have space for that( what a forum). About the event, i dont spent any coins, any hours etc because i didnt spent my time to fishing them. Until they dont update this game here, they dont corrige many bugs, its a waste of time. About the forum, i prefer many others in facebook. Quote
Fishnatic Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 Having played FP since nearly the beginning I'll offer another perspective. This type of disappointment and alienation of the players is not new. In fact, it's been the management style for a very long time now. So many fine people have left the game (even after months of trying to help shape a better game with positive criticism and good attitude) but that hasn't changed their approach at all so we are left to either stay or go, accept it how it is or move on. There are a lot of us that try to enjoy the game but without supporting it financially. The developer will do what he wants to do regardless of our complaints. If there was competition out there that provided the same exciting experience FP is capable of it would be a different story but that competition doesn't exist as of now. Quote
Developers Hegert Posted November 6, 2017 Developers Report Posted November 6, 2017 We hear you, but it is impossible to please everyone unless we make every fish easy to catch with little to no effort, no DLCs, free updates for life and so on. A company does not last that way for too long and we are trying to do our best to survive as a company, as a business to keep producing content for the players whether they have helped us financially or just by playing our game without spending real money. Although I do not know the exact numbers since I work remotely, I do know that the Fishing Planet team is small. It takes a lot of time to get a person from hiring somebody to being familiar with the code to becoming a full-time developer of the game and work as fast as all the "old guys". Since this is the case, developing new features, waterways, fish or other things is a challenge. It sure may seem like certain parts of development should not take too long or, when we haven't put out a bigger update for a month, then that is too long. However, this is not the case. As a gamer myself, I do understand the frustration everybody is having - whether it is a bug, a missing item, not so "player-friendly" feature or other things, you just have to live with it & wait. The development team has to make decisions based on data gathered and their initial goals as well as feedback from the players. We have thousands and thousands of players, so taking everybody's personal opinion into account and making into a game so that it fits, is just not possible, the majority's feedback however, as long as it does not kill the game or the business, is another story. The game is free, but living is not. While there are many DLCs from a wide price range, the whole game is free. You do not have to spend any money whatsoever to play the game. Is it easier to advance when you pay? Of course, but this is the point - those who are willing to support us in that way, need to get a bit of an advantage. When it comes to players who are Level 40 or generally very good at the game, it does get a bit boring, we understand and know that. The team has plans to make the "end game" more interesting for those as well as release more tournaments, competitions, challenges and other features so that all players can benefit from them - beginners and pros. It all takes time, especially with a small team. Fishing Planet team is not a triple-A company where features could be released within a month and when we actually take a look at AAA companies, I am pretty sure they are worse (For the most part) at releasing updates, new features or even communicating with the community. They choose to stay quiet and do their own thing, whether you like it or not. We are not like that. Besides doing the usual Customer Support, we actively respond to questions and concerns in the forums and through our Facebook page. Now, when we are talking about bite rates and people not catching fish, it must be a challenge. You do not have to be spoonfed with information (in or outside of the game) about how to fish, where to find fish etc. Our logic and systems are based on real life scenarios and information, so you can always go and read about certain waterways or fish and make your decisions based on that. However, like I mentioned earlier, the game is not supposed to be easy. It must be a challenge and even more, when we are talking about very profitable fish or special fish in the game. CS:GO has a case system (You buy the key, open a case) and there is always a "Rare special item" in every case - usually a knife or gloves. Are players supposed to open them often? No. Is it purposely made so that it is a challenge? Yes. People sometimes open thousands of cases (and spending real money) and do not get an item even close to that; some open a case or two and get a knife. Is it player-friendly? No and it is not supposed to be. It is sort of the same case with all these special fish in the game. Even though there are certain ways of having higher chances of catching those, it is not supposed to be easy and just because player X gets more of these or faster does not mean your game is broken or that you should get them too. Some have caught their 100+ fish already and some have not, this is how it is. You can always come to the forum here and ask for help on how to catch one of these species you are looking for, or talk to the people in the game - they may or may not help you. People will always ask for more, no matter what. -- I am not talking on behalf of the company. This is my own view of the case and a bit of an explanation as to why things are the way they are. 1 Quote
Fishnatic Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 There's only one way left to voice your displeasure with the game when your comments have been ignored and that's by not spending money. Economy, physics bugs and poor communication between the FP team and players is why I'm not buying anything. Regarding the physics issues- I believe they are incredibly complicated and take time to work out but I strongly suspect they aren't being worked on at all. Economy- haven't read anywhere where KW said he plans on doing anything about the hundreds of complaints. Quote
Diggar Posted November 6, 2017 Report Posted November 6, 2017 Hello Hegert, I am not understanding the point you're trying to make in mentioning counter strike's case system. At least I hope I'm not understanding. Please elaborate. Thank you. Quote
Developers Hegert Posted November 7, 2017 Developers Report Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Diggar said: Hello Hegert, I am not understanding the point you're trying to make in mentioning counter strike's case system. At least I hope I'm not understanding. Please elaborate. Thank you. I tried to talk about the "chances" of winning/getting something. People are not satisfied with the very low % of certain fish species. They are low for a reason, the same why knives/gloves in CS cases have a low % - it needs to be a challenge. While it is purely luck in terms of CSGO, in our case it is a combination of using the correct gear at the right time with the correct weather on the correct spots (and so on) + luck. Hope it clarifies it a bit. 3 hours ago, Fishnatic said: There's only one way left to voice your displeasure with the game when your comments have been ignored and that's by not spending money. Economy, physics bugs and poor communication between the FP team and players is why I'm not buying anything. Regarding the physics issues- I believe they are incredibly complicated and take time to work out but I strongly suspect they aren't being worked on at all. Economy- haven't read anywhere where KW said he plans on doing anything about the hundreds of complaints. They do work on physics, seen these discussions on multiple occasions myself. As far as economy goes, we recently lowered travel prices for a set of waterways. They are not cheap, but cheaper than they used to be. 1 Quote
Pierre Posted November 7, 2017 Report Posted November 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Hegert said: We hear you, but it is impossible to please everyone unless we make every fish easy to catch with little to no effort, no DLCs, free updates for life and so on. A company does not last that way for too long and we are trying to do our best to survive as a company, as a business to keep producing content for the players whether they have helped us financially or just by playing our game without spending real money. Although I do not know the exact numbers since I work remotely, I do know that the Fishing Planet team is small. It takes a lot of time to get a person from hiring somebody to being familiar with the code to becoming a full-time developer of the game and work as fast as all the "old guys". Since this is the case, developing new features, waterways, fish or other things is a challenge. It sure may seem like certain parts of development should not take too long or, when we haven't put out a bigger update for a month, then that is too long. However, this is not the case. As a gamer myself, I do understand the frustration everybody is having - whether it is a bug, a missing item, not so "player-friendly" feature or other things, you just have to live with it & wait. The development team has to make decisions based on data gathered and their initial goals as well as feedback from the players. We have thousands and thousands of players, so taking everybody's personal opinion into account and making into a game so that it fits, is just not possible, the majority's feedback however, as long as it does not kill the game or the business, is another story. The game is free, but living is not. While there are many DLCs from a wide price range, the whole game is free. You do not have to spend any money whatsoever to play the game. Is it easier to advance when you pay? Of course, but this is the point - those who are willing to support us in that way, need to get a bit of an advantage. When it comes to players who are Level 40 or generally very good at the game, it does get a bit boring, we understand and know that. The team has plans to make the "end game" more interesting for those as well as release more tournaments, competitions, challenges and other features so that all players can benefit from them - beginners and pros. It all takes time, especially with a small team. Fishing Planet team is not a triple-A company where features could be released within a month and when we actually take a look at AAA companies, I am pretty sure they are worse (For the most part) at releasing updates, new features or even communicating with the community. They choose to stay quiet and do their own thing, whether you like it or not. We are not like that. Besides doing the usual Customer Support, we actively respond to questions and concerns in the forums and through our Facebook page. Now, when we are talking about bite rates and people not catching fish, it must be a challenge. You do not have to be spoonfed with information (in or outside of the game) about how to fish, where to find fish etc. Our logic and systems are based on real life scenarios and information, so you can always go and read about certain waterways or fish and make your decisions based on that. However, like I mentioned earlier, the game is not supposed to be easy. It must be a challenge and even more, when we are talking about very profitable fish or special fish in the game. CS:GO has a case system (You buy the key, open a case) and there is always a "Rare special item" in every case - usually a knife or gloves. Are players supposed to open them often? No. Is it purposely made so that it is a challenge? Yes. People sometimes open thousands of cases (and spending real money) and do not get an item even close to that; some open a case or two and get a knife. Is it player-friendly? No and it is not supposed to be. It is sort of the same case with all these special fish in the game. Even though there are certain ways of having higher chances of catching those, it is not supposed to be easy and just because player X gets more of these or faster does not mean your game is broken or that you should get them too. Some have caught their 100+ fish already and some have not, this is how it is. You can always come to the forum here and ask for help on how to catch one of these species you are looking for, or talk to the people in the game - they may or may not help you. People will always ask for more, no matter what. -- I am not talking on behalf of the company. This is my own view of the case and a bit of an explanation as to why things are the way they are. I do understand what you are trying to say with it being a challenge and all. But as far as the event went there has been numerous bugs and glitches where players has lost event bait due to glitches. We come gere to adress and talk about the issues so that the FP team can become aware off it, and to try and compensate peaople that have been effected, many off the waterways had been glitchy with 0% catch rate from time to time, same goes with the event fish not biting on normal bait for days. Not everyone can financially support the company but there is alot off us that does because we injoy it and know that by us donating to the game it will help build a better and bigger over all game. But from normal items to event items there should be a huge gap in effectiveness, and yes some days had been better that other but still doesn't compensate for the amount of money people spend. All in all the event was a big bust with event items still not desplaying correctly, one of the codes i think should have been checked before the launch off the event, small things that have been seen over that makes a snowball effect. After all we didnt ask for much, fix the bugs for the event, compensate us for bait lost due to glitches and extend the event time fir time lost due to no fish glitches and none happed in a timely manner that people could try and finish the challenge. Not every one has more that 2-3 hours game time a day and that makes it abit impossible to even finish 1 of the challenges. Look after your players and they will look after you as a company Quote
Fishnatic Posted November 7, 2017 Report Posted November 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Pierre said: Look after your players and they will look after you as a company So so true. I'm just one player out of thousands but I will extend an olive branch and go buy a dlc now to show you that communication will earn you loyalty. Bugs happen- I think everyone understands how complicated the code must be but when players spend actual money and a bug steals the chance of that purchase being useful-- this is when you need to step up and take care of your people. Step up! Offer something in return to all the people that spent money on and got nothing because of glitches. I'm not one of them, by the way- I've got plenty of game currency. I just want to see this game thrive so please... and I've said this many many times, please improve the way you deal with your players. ps- ghost pike were awesome 1 Quote
Diggar Posted November 7, 2017 Report Posted November 7, 2017 12 hours ago, Hegert said: I tried to talk about the "chances" of winning/getting something. People are not satisfied with the very low % of certain fish species. They are low for a reason, the same why knives/gloves in CS cases have a low % - it needs to be a challenge. While it ispurely luck in terms of CSGO, in our case it is a combination of using the correct gear at the right time with the correct weather on the correct spots (and so on) + luck. Hope it clarifies it a bit. 1 Thank you for the clarification. When you brought up CS it the answered the question of what bothered me about the gar-o-ween event. In other online games, celebratory events are designed to be extremely user-friendly. So much so that I just assumed all games designed their events as such. But as I suspected during this event and you have verified above that is not the case in Fishing Planet. This is not a big deal to me because I don't play Fishing Planet solely for its celebratory events. I very much enjoy this game and will continue to play it sans any future celebration events participation. Thank you for the opportunity to converse and a HUGE thanks to you and everyone responsible for bringing us this awesome game. 1 Quote
Magisthiq Posted November 7, 2017 Report Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, Hegert said: I tried to talk about the "chances" of winning/getting something. People are not satisfied with the very low % of certain fish species. They are low for a reason, the same why knives/gloves in CS cases have a low % - it needs to be a challenge. While it is purely luck in terms of CSGO, in our case it is a combination of using the correct gear at the right time with the correct weather on the correct spots (and so on) + luck. Hope it clarifies it a bit. I cant believe you making a comparison between low bite rate and case drops in cs that's just sad. That's like in cs.. hope i hit this time or maybe the bullet going through him and nothing happens. Would cs players accept that? Like everyone else say you can't spend more than 2-3 hours per night and if you do spend your 2-3h you want to have some fun not just looking at your bobber the whole time with maybe 1 fish. Start doing case drops instead but that's a whole another story. I think your defending talk doesn't work cause there is a lack of respect for the players and no one will accept that. Edited November 7, 2017 by Magisthiq Quote
TC915 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Have to agree with all the player replies, they've said it more eloquently & detailed than I ever could. Tho I can add, the event was most obviously bugged/broken. Some have made the comment "how can someone be expected to complete challenge playing only a couple hrs a day", well I can attest it wouldn't have matter for some because event was broken. I played many hrs (5+) everyday, and didn't even come close lol, lost too many baits to strike bug & since day fishing was horrible during event as well, couldn't recoup travel cost to stay till end of event. And please don't use the excuse "well needed right equipment, bait, weather, time, etc...," because many of us did that purposely from the start just cause we know how the core game works. I'd feel better if y'all would just admit it was setup in a way to bleed out everyones savings to encourage buying just to complete the challenges, instead of giving obviously false reasons why fish weren't being caught. Teams of us tried everything in the book from day 1 till we were tapped on resources & made a economic decision that a hat (that's not even hat advertised) wasn't worth the real money it would've taken to complete just that 1 challenge, let alone all 3 lol. It was & will forever be thought of as a broken dash for cash by almost everyone I've had the pleasure to get to know in this game. Only bright side I see is y'all can't do any worse next event & hopefully take this one as a big learning opportunity & make future events either less buggy/broken or be honest & state from beginning "we need revenue & to complete this event x amount of money will be needed". We're adults not children, we'll either participate or not, but don't feed us bologna & try to convince us it didn't taste like filet mignon because we didn't cook it right. *Edit/P.S.* Still love the game & will continue to play & recommend it, just will be wary of any special event till I see verified setup & player experiences with future events. Edited November 8, 2017 by TC915 Quote
Developers Hegert Posted November 8, 2017 Developers Report Posted November 8, 2017 As I am not a developer (The name here on the forum just says that for a moderator), I can only assume based on my thoughts and seeing the conversations and revealed biterates by Killerwhale. Team definitely looked into it and AFAIK, also raised the biterates. If people think something is truly broken, it can always be reported in the bug section or support@fishingplanet.com - the rest is up to the developers. 1 Quote
Drunkendude Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Can’t please everybody. I like the game the way it is. I don’t want to log on and catch every fish right away. I like a challenge. Trying to figure out the best spots which set up which lure. I play a couple to a few hours when I get home from work. I play and hr or two before I go to work and play more on the weekend. So I like the challenge of trying to catch the next bigger fish I don’t want to catch it right away I want to try all the different maps try to catch all the Unique. I like a game to where you have to put time in , don’t want to reach lvl 40 in a day or a week. Should take time. I catch a big fish I can’t wait to come back and try and catch a bigger one. Now when I reach level 40 I think there should be better rewards and bigger rewards. Need more end game stuff for the level 40s. But I know takes time. So fishing planet you’re doing a good job. Need to make a few only level 40 maps. Then later on extend more levels after level 40 just don’t give up on the game just keep building it and people will come. I put the hours and time in I should deserve better than others because I put the work in. This is a free game, it’s nice to finally find a game to where you don’t have to spend a ton of money to enjoy the game or play. But I love the choice of having to or not to spend money. Have I spent money on this game yes. I bought the sport pack And have bought the premium a couple times to catch up with my friends. It’s nice to earn the money in the game to buy the equipment and I don’t have to spend real life money. After level 40 and they create other maps and other Gear I’m sure I will spend money definitely getting the kayak when it comes out. Like I said it’s nice that I have a choice to where I do or I don’t have to spend money. Edited November 8, 2017 by Drunkendude 1 Quote
TC915 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hegert said: As I am not a developer (The name here on the forum just says that for a moderator), I can only assume based on my thoughts and seeing the conversations and revealed biterates by Killerwhale. Team definitely looked into it and AFAIK, also raised the biterates. If people think something is truly broken, it can always be reported in the bug section or support@fishingplanet.com - the rest is up to the developers. You are correct KillerWhale did reply w/ bite rates in ViolentV' Halloween post & event was working as intended. Yet a day later was mentioned after internal testing bite rates were raised, then another day later they were lowered to previous rates (or lower). I'm not crying or going to debate something that anyone who participated in the event could clearly see & know. It was setup in a way to be completely against players catching fish, regardless if you had correct spot, bait, time, weather, equipment, or spent real money, but rather geared towards milking the customers for all we'd allow. Which is fine honestly, after all y'all are a company needing profit to stay afloat; if the Team would just admit it instead of insisting all was fine w/ the event & we weren't doing right lol. Literally every room I joined (everyday here & in ps4 community) during event was full of folks sharing ideas, successful setups (gear, bait, weather, etc.) & yet couldn't get more than a fish a night (most only getting 1 per 4-5 nights) until rates were raised, then powers that be saw folks actually catching them & lowered rates. Again we're not children, you may lose a few players for being straight up & honest w/ customers but y'all most certainly will lose far more by being shady & treating us like we're not smart enough to see our own verified test results. Again not mad about you guys needing/wanting to make a profit & as stated Love the game & will continue to play & recommend it, but special events will forever be tainted in most players minds unless setup is changed for future events. Edited November 8, 2017 by TC915 1 Quote
Pierre Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 That is the biggest thing, yes the event was a bust and alot of people including myself had spend money on the game to better the odds, and do believe i will spend in the future ture again. All we want is for you to admit the event was a flaw and that people will be compensated, hell i spend coins i was saving for a permanent licence just for a busted event. AND like we said the double xp weekend just doesn't cut it Quote
Magisthiq Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Drunkendude said: Can’t please everybody. I like the game the way it is. I don’t want to log on and catch every fish right away. I like a challenge. Trying to figure out the best spots which set up which lure. I play a couple to a few hours when I get home from work. I play and hr or two before I go to work and play more on the weekend. So I like the challenge of trying to catch the next bigger fish I don’t want to catch it right away I want to try all the different maps try to catch all the Unique. I like a game to where you have to put time in , don’t want to reach lvl 40 in a day or a week. Should take time. I catch a big fish I can’t wait to come back and try and catch a bigger one. Now when I reach level 40 I think there should be better rewards and bigger rewards. Need more end game stuff for the level 40s. But I know takes time. So fishing planet you’re doing a good job. Need to make a few only level 40 maps. Then later on extend more levels after level 40 just don’t give up on the game just keep building it and people will come. I put the hours and time in I should deserve better than others because I put the work in. This is a free game, it’s nice to finally find a game to where you don’t have to spend a ton of money to enjoy the game or play. But I love the choice of having to or not to spend money. Have I spent money on this game yes. I bought the sport pack And have bought the premium a couple times to catch up with my friends. It’s nice to earn the money in the game to buy the equipment and I don’t have to spend real life money. After level 40 and they create other maps and other Gear I’m sure I will spend money definitely getting the kayak when it comes out. Like I said it’s nice that I have a choice to where I do or I don’t have to spend money. But you know what we are talking about here? Doesn't look like it... Quote
X-xH3aDxS4o7x-X Posted November 8, 2017 Report Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hegert said: As I am not a developer (The name here on the forum just says that for a moderator), I can only assume based on my thoughts and seeing the conversations and revealed biterates by Killerwhale. Team definitely looked into it and AFAIK, also raised the biterates. If people think something is truly broken, it can always be reported in the bug section or support@fishingplanet.com - the rest is up to the developers. The problem is, they raised the biterates for 1 day then dropped them back to worse than they were before. Either that or it caused the AI to go completely buggy and it was not fixed. They were also active on the thread where EVERYONE was complaining because of them not having proper behavior. People did make bug reports about they way they were behaving, as well as losing many baitcoin baits to the "strike too early" bug. I made that report myself and kept documentation of every time, and date that it happened. I was then replied to with "This is working properly". The same response they gave to the AI behavior. 5 hours ago, Pierre said: That is the biggest thing, yes the event was a bust and alot of people including myself had spend money on the game to better the odds, and do believe i will spend in the future ture again. All we want is for you to admit the event was a flaw and that people will be compensated, hell i spend coins i was saving for a permanent licence just for a busted event. AND like we said the double xp weekend just doesn't cut it Precisely. 5 hours ago, TC915 said: Literally every room I joined (everyday here & in ps4 community) during event was full of folks sharing ideas, successful setups (gear, bait, weather, etc.) & yet couldn't get more than a fish a night (most only getting 1 per 4-5 nights) until rates were raised, then powers that be saw folks actually catching them & lowered rates. I know that we had a team of at least 8-10 players going after the fish and sharing tactics. There were many more on the forums sharing information, and every bit of information I shared here, with the exact tactics detailed out with pictures. The entire community and player base knew things weren't behaving properly, and if things were working as intended, we were intentionally given a buggy event. 6 hours ago, Drunkendude said: Can’t please everybody. I like the game the way it is. I don’t want to log on and catch every fish right away. I like a challenge. Trying to figure out the best spots which set up which lure. I play a couple to a few hours when I get home from work. I play and hr or two before I go to work and play more on the weekend. I agree completely, as far as the normal game goes. I love the challenge of having to use specific tactics to catch a rare fish. Baits, times, lures, leader length, weather patterns etc...It's one thing that I really enjoy about this game. That it is indeed a challenge. However, there is a difference in the normal game, and the buggy event fish. It sucked the fun right out of the game. It became a huge frustrating grind for impossible broken fish. We worked as a team with myself and at least 10 other players trying everything under the sun to figure out the tactics. The only time they "worked as intended" was when they upped the biterates for 1 day. I personally spent 35+ hours before ever catching my first Vampire gar. I also personally spent at least 100-150 hours to just get the 100 vampires for the achievement. I ended up broke, no cash, 2 baitcoins left. I had to sell all of my Xseries gear that I had earned throughout levelling to 40 just to get enough baitcoins for event baits to catch them. All of this for a "Scarecrow cowboy hat" that doesn't show up properly, and is just a yellow baseball cap with a B on it. This was not my sole experiece either. This is coming from almost everyone whom participated in the "event". I'm glad to be back to normal fishing. I was actually planning on spending some money on this game, but will refrain until all of the bugs are worked out. 5 hours ago, TC915 said: Literally every room I joined (everyday here & in ps4 community) during event was full of folks sharing ideas, successful setups (gear, bait, weather, etc.) & yet couldn't get more than a fish a night (most only getting 1 per 4-5 nights) until rates were raised, then powers that be saw folks actually catching them & lowered rates. ^^^^YUP^^^^ Edit: Just for some extra clarification, if there is any question of us working as a team to figure out that the event gar were bugged, or how they worked/didn't work, you need only look here. 12,000+ views. 500 replies. And that was just one thread on the forum. Not to mention the teams of players we had in game putting in legwork and research. https://forum.fishingplanet.com/index.php?/topic/1368-halloween-event/ Edited November 8, 2017 by X-xH3aDxS4o7x-X 2 1 Quote
Violentvole Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Posted November 9, 2017 Hegert, I started this thread so it seems fitting that I reply to you. Firstly let me say I have bought DLC and God knows how many baitcoins. I have spent over £500 of my money on this game, and I will spend more. Because, it is a fantastic game. The replies show peoples dissatisfaction with the event. Bear in mind that we made numerous posts stating the vamp gar were not working as intended. We were quoted a ratio of 0.53% if memory serves, and told the event was ' working as intended '. At this point, some of us were lucky to get one vamp per game night. Various reports of gar ignoring our baits, stealing our baits etc were seemingly ignored. Now this was supposed to be an event. I.e. something everyone could participate in. People spent their money on coins for baits. Suddenly, the gar became catchable on Monday if memory serves. Only to drop again on Tuesday. I fully accept what you say that it was meant to be a challenge, but if I - who has 5 days off a week, no baitcoin limitations, no ingame money limitations, no time limitations and, I'd like to think, no ingame skill limitations - found this event impossible to complete, how on Earth was the average player supposed to be able to even get close?? I only just scraped through on the vampire gar, and it wasn't for lack of trying as several guys here can/have attest/ed. Left me no time to get 100 albinos ( 58 ) or ogres ( 8 ). Fact is, people lost real money on this event. I appreciate you're not a dev and were stating your own personal views, that's what forums are for after all. I also very much appreciate you allowing threads with critiscism to remain, hopefully because you can see that above all else, it is constructive and not just random bitching. There was an issue with the vamps no matter what is said. A lot of us here proved that, but our complaints mostly seemed to fall on deaf ears. However, I can also appreciate the fact it's a new game for PS4 so there may have been issues. It just would have been nice to have them acknowledged instead of being largely ignored no matter what we said. I doubt it has driven anyone away from the game permanently, but I can guarantee you that the next event will be scrutinised minutely by all here before commiting to it. I mean no ill-will or disrespect to yourself or the devs, can only begin to imagine what a challenge it is for a small, independent team to have everything working perfectly, all of the time. But, there was a major flaw in the Halloween event regarding the vamps no matter what is said. I won't bother mentioning the prizes ( I had to SS somebody to show them their vest wasn't there ) because I saw the post stating it's on the list to be fixed, that's fine and it goes a long way to show the devs do care and want to make a great game. If we sound like we overly complain, it's because we like the game so much. And if it seems like I have a big mouth....well, I do. And I'll post what people would like to but won't. Like I said, it says a lot to me that not only did you leave the thread open but you also replied yourself. Would be all too easy to either lock or delete, but all credit to you, you did neither. Fingers crossed for the next event. No matter what we say, none of us would be here if we didn't love the game, so I do apologise to you for my venting. We just want our concerns taken care of more than anything else, or at least acknowledged. Do that, and we'll all support the game and spend money for as long as they keep it running. I certainly will, and I know some of the others I've spent some time with will too. If anything of the above seems disjointed, discombobulating or plain weird, forgive me. Been out fishing for real all day and knackered at 1am! 3 Quote
Developers Hegert Posted November 9, 2017 Developers Report Posted November 9, 2017 I completely understand the frustration as a player and like I stated, I am not a developer of the game, so I cannot go deep into explaining something I am not fully aware of. This is pretty much all I can say. The only things I can suggest is voicing your opinion here in the forums and emailing the support team => support@fishingplanet.com Nobody is trying to screw players over, but mistakes may happen (I am not saying this current situation is or is not a mistake - I just do not know). The best way is to make it loud and clear and let the Support know, the team of developers do read the forum as well as information going to the Support email. Trust me on that. 1 Quote
CrackBadger Posted November 10, 2017 Report Posted November 10, 2017 I'm sure I left a comment on this thread, I cant seem to see it anymore ! ha Quote
Diggar Posted November 10, 2017 Report Posted November 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, CrackBadger said: I'm sure I left a comment on this thread, I cant seem to see it anymore ! ha They moved it to the tips section 1 Quote
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