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So i just came across a forum post on steam and would love to hear an explanation from the DEVS or they probably don't give a damn?

For all the people that said i was wrong or this and that. No. You were wrong. EXPLAIN TO ME why i spend 400$ on DLCs but yet i have to deal with this crap?

We are talking about the PC version and not PS4 here. I knew this was a problem all along and tried to get the DEVS attention or anyone for that matter to do SOMETHING. But of course nothing has been done and its just terrible news to see stuff like this come out. I'm pissed off to have spent over 400$ on DLCs and to know that none of the money is going towards improving the integrity of the game. Because right now there is none. Its a scripting shit show. Ruined the game for me, that is for sure. Very unfortunate to see this stuff, but relieved at the same time to know my gut feeling was right all along, and NO they are not BETTER fisherman, NO THEY DON'T PRACTICE MORE. They just CHEAT. 

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I did a tournament the other day and it was so obvious that the top of the board was cheating (and one 'guild/group' or whatever in particular) that I got curious and went to google.  So I came across a forum where I found some guy had made this tool:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-dllpnCYfl5bnFyeUdnWldVTFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcKyIVHLTU&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9viKJNDSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUY9KcFf2Ho

http://r55.imgup.net/FP_FishCam475b.png

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36c0qf

https://tune.pk/video/6199838/fishing-planet-hack-tool

He also made several videos of the lakes he had access to at the time of the post and plotted the fishing boxes for them in 3 dimensions, and not only that they unlock a camera that the developers use to test the fish AI so they can watch the bite.  Furthermore I did some reading into what this guy had posted and he gave very detailed explanations of the fishing spawning and bite mechanics.  Not only is he able to see fish that are following the lure but he can see weight/size information on them and make them 'go away' automatically if they aren't in the size range he wants.  Then there's the auto-hook setting... which makes it that much more impossible to compete against.  As he described it you'll never catch 'every fish' some will get off no matter what, but the program ensures that you catch every single one that you possibly could have.  Along with the snag point "ESP" as you can see the video etc.  Oh and by decompiling the engine they have access to the lure database with the attraction values for each lure relative to each fish.... 

So for  all the people that say theres no cheating goin on in this game must be blind, or just stupid. Because it is very obvious the " top " clan/players are russian hackers, and get the hacks from the russian website that specializes in video game hacks. It just so sad to see that the devs of this game do nothing  about it or have a anti-cheat put in place to protect the legit players that play and spend money on this game. They let the script kiddies do what they want. Untill they do anything about it dont expect to win any comps/tournaments because you simply cannot compete with the overpowered cheats that exist in this game.Dont get me wrong when i came across this information i was disgusted and stunned that theres nothing in place to prevent people from using 3rd party programs in this game. Good luck in ur next competition ( you are gonna need tons of it and probably still won win lol )

 

 

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Nobody has ever claimed (As far as the official team goes) that there are no cheaters at all. It is not always very easy to catch them, nevertheless, I'll let the team know about it. Thanks for reporting!

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We are fighting with cheaters from the beginning. And probably we will do it one again with some tuning. Now we have all Ps4 comps data which can be used as a reference model (PS4 is a trusted platform, cheating is extremely hard here). So we can use it to tune down our anticheat system on PC. Will start tomorrow and will write down the anticheat progress here.Finally, we have some time and manpower to do it right.

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On 11/7/2017 at 1:51 AM, SteamingPolak said:

So i just came across a forum post on steam and would love to hear an explanation from the DEVS or they probably don't give a damn?

For all the people that said i was wrong or this and that. No. You were wrong. EXPLAIN TO ME why i spend 400$ on DLCs but yet i have to deal with this crap?

We are talking about the PC version and not PS4 here. I knew this was a problem all along and tried to get the DEVS attention or anyone for that matter to do SOMETHING. But of course nothing has been done and its just terrible news to see stuff like this come out. I'm pissed off to have spent over 400$ on DLCs and to know that none of the money is going towards improving the integrity of the game. Because right now there is none. Its a scripting shit show. Ruined the game for me, that is for sure. Very unfortunate to see this stuff, but relieved at the same time to know my gut feeling was right all along, and NO they are not BETTER fisherman, NO THEY DON'T PRACTICE MORE. They just CHEAT. 

================================================================================================================================

I did a tournament the other day and it was so obvious that the top of the board was cheating (and one 'guild/group' or whatever in particular) that I got curious and went to google.  So I came across a forum where I found some guy had made this tool:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-dllpnCYfl5bnFyeUdnWldVTFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcKyIVHLTU&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9viKJNDSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUY9KcFf2Ho

http://r55.imgup.net/FP_FishCam475b.png

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36c0qf

https://tune.pk/video/6199838/fishing-planet-hack-tool

He also made several videos of the lakes he had access to at the time of the post and plotted the fishing boxes for them in 3 dimensions, and not only that they unlock a camera that the developers use to test the fish AI so they can watch the bite.  Furthermore I did some reading into what this guy had posted and he gave very detailed explanations of the fishing spawning and bite mechanics.  Not only is he able to see fish that are following the lure but he can see weight/size information on them and make them 'go away' automatically if they aren't in the size range he wants.  Then there's the auto-hook setting... which makes it that much more impossible to compete against.  As he described it you'll never catch 'every fish' some will get off no matter what, but the program ensures that you catch every single one that you possibly could have.  Along with the snag point "ESP" as you can see the video etc.  Oh and by decompiling the engine they have access to the lure database with the attraction values for each lure relative to each fish.... 

So for  all the people that say theres no cheating goin on in this game must be blind, or just stupid. Because it is very obvious the " top " clan/players are russian hackers, and get the hacks from the russian website that specializes in video game hacks. It just so sad to see that the devs of this game do nothing  about it or have a anti-cheat put in place to protect the legit players that play and spend money on this game. They let the script kiddies do what they want. Untill they do anything about it dont expect to win any comps/tournaments because you simply cannot compete with the overpowered cheats that exist in this game.Dont get me wrong when i came across this information i was disgusted and stunned that theres nothing in place to prevent people from using 3rd party programs in this game. Good luck in ur next competition ( you are gonna need tons of it and probably still won win lol )

 

 

Im playing on the ps4 version and can definitely say that even in the ps4 there are people cheating don't ask me how but its clearly obvious in the comp, as in some cases if you take the point of the top player it adds up to sometimes 3 fish in 1 ig minute which in my opinion cant be dont eg. i was in the florida large mouth bass comp and the top 5 fish counted, well this guy cant remember his ig id had a total of 60kg 120lb of bass for 30ig minutes, wich adds to 5 uni bass in 30 minutes not possible sorry

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these cheaters don't even try and hide their cheating. they will catch pound after pound of fish in first 30 seconds. in one tournament over the holidays i saw a guy catch a 70 lb. blue cat in florida. they don't have any blue cats in the florida map.

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I don't cheat, break or hack multiplayer games but I do singleplayer games and I've been around the communities for almost 10 years now and can tell you that one, a hacker or scripter even a vet one can't hack to get infinite money or xp due to them being server side...two they do have whats called "ESPs" a generic term for a tool that displays hidden information to the user such fish spawn zones and snag zones. The fish cam that you brought isn't really a hack, I talked to few guys and they dug around in FP's files and dlls and they found that the fish is actually already in the game most likely for the devs to test things out(you can make you own opinion of that). There is other tools such as the one that instantly pulls the fish out the water which is actually a autohotkey script (a script that presses buttons for you in various speeds and combinations). There is one other one that as far as I was told was created to help disabled players and that just helps with retrieval, if that was true or not I don't know. So in conclusion yes there is tools out there that assist in finding and catching fish, but I think the main one everyone was truly worried about was the "hacking" of money and xp, of which at this point no one that I know of (and I know a lot of them) has created a script or "hack" for. Though I'm not going to lie, injecting scripts into the server is a way to gain money and xp but it's extremely hard and dangerous(you can be arrested for this) and as a faithful FP player and someone whos been around those communities for almost 10 years I can say with complete faith that there is no "hacker" or "scripter" remotely trying to gain money and/or xp thru any means other than fishing whether it be assisted or not. This is due the game no being all that popular(not saying it's a bad game I love this game), most of the people that create tools or "hacks" are doing it to sell them to other people, therefor if the game isn't all that popular that means less money to be made. It's my hope that people reading this won't flip out on the devs and others about whos right and whos wrong, I simply wanted to clearify some info and give others a new perspective on the world of the "Hackers". If there's anything you should take away from this it's that the Devs have one hell of time competing with thousands of "hackers" around the world and that they are most likely doing their best to thwart such efforts(by the way the most anti-cheat programs are easily bypassed).

 

P.S Hopefully I won't be banned, I was just trying to help.

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On 3/1/2018 at 11:39 PM, TyrOdinson said:

I don't cheat, break or hack multiplayer games but I do singleplayer games and I've been around the communities for almost 10 years now and can tell you that one, a hacker or scripter even a vet one can't hack to get infinite money or xp due to them being server side

 

How does catching all the fish I want whenever I want materially differ from infinite money and xp?

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On 3/3/2018 at 1:52 AM, Zanaspus said:

 

How does catching all the fish I want whenever I want materially differ from infinite money and xp?

I would hope that you actually read my whole post before you said something like this but that doesn't seem to be the case. They aren't catching all the fish they want, they still have to contend with the RNG system, meaning yes they learning how to catch a certain fish quicker than someone else trying to figure it out by trial and error but that doesn't make them a better fisher at the end of the day. Most FP don't need assistance to figure out how to catch a fish, and on top of that they can do it quicker and more effectively than most new players. So in short "hackers" are just skipping the learning process, which still sucks but they are destroying the game.

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They need to take a look at this for real. The latest bass derby for example, I worked my ass off to put 49 lbs of fish is the boat, finished number 41 well outside the #30 required to proceed, everyone above me had 50-55 lbs. now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that, that's an average of 5 pounds per fish. That is ABSURD. Especially considering the big trophies in NC max out just above 6.5. I have always championed this game, and defended it, but I am disgusted with the amount of cheating in competitons.

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11 hours ago, WanderingHippie said:

They need to take a look at this for real. The latest bass derby for example, I worked my ass off to put 49 lbs of fish is the boat, finished number 41 well outside the #30 required to proceed, everyone above me had 50-55 lbs. now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that, that's an average of 5 pounds per fish. That is ABSURD. Especially considering the big trophies in NC max out just above 6.5. I have always championed this game, and defended it, but I am disgusted with the amount of cheating in competitons.

I can only speak for myself, but here's my top 10 fish. I was jumping 3 different spots and focused mostly on frogpoppers. First hour I already had 3 trophies, and in the second hour I started upgrading. I was having the best comp of my life clearly, catching probably 60-70 fish atleast. Unlike the first qualifier where I only caught 17 fish in the 2 hours, 13 Largemouth and 11 over 1lbs.

I wouldnt even mind sharing the spots I was jumping, but that will have to wait until the qualifier is finished :)

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I was fishing the same spots, with the same lures, there are only like 5 spots for bass in NC in total, only three produce trophies. You are telling me that it was all RNG over two hours of gameplay? I don't believe it. If you pardon the pun, something is fishy.

 

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Here are the 3 spots I fished, and how far of a stretch I fished before going full reelspeed to make a new cast.

https://imgur.com/a/bVwBC

I clearly had the "Random Number Gods" on my side last night, for the first 6 ingamehours it felt like I was catching trophies all the time, and in the last 2 hours I had 1 trophy each hours, none of which was good enough to switch out.
If you still think it's fishy feel free to check my ingame profile, I havnt been top 3 in any of the 149 events or 9 tournaments I've entered. In my mind I was bound to finally have some luck on my side.
I even got a 3 min video dump I made to give the devs, since I had quite a few "bouncing lure" bugs mid qualifier.

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I find the tournaments seem to be a tad tougher for me then just free fishing. I know I can fish a lake, know the hot bait and spots that produce trophies and then join a tourney and only catch 2 in 2 hours! Seems messed up if you ask me. Not sure what I could have done differently if the bait and spots work every time I go to that lake and then don't all of a sudden.

I do have one gripe though: If it's true that XS baits have a CLEAR advantage over others, then that bait should not be allowed during tourney play, clearly a disadvantage for everyone else that doesn't own one!

I wish everyone remaining all the best in the April BASS tourney moving forward though!

Peace

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On 11/6/2017 at 6:51 PM, SteamingPolak said:

So i just came across a forum post on steam and would love to hear an explanation from the DEVS or they probably don't give a damn?

For all the people that said i was wrong or this and that. No. You were wrong. EXPLAIN TO ME why i spend 400$ on DLCs but yet i have to deal with this crap?

We are talking about the PC version and not PS4 here. I knew this was a problem all along and tried to get the DEVS attention or anyone for that matter to do SOMETHING. But of course nothing has been done and its just terrible news to see stuff like this come out. I'm pissed off to have spent over 400$ on DLCs and to know that none of the money is going towards improving the integrity of the game. Because right now there is none. Its a scripting shit show. Ruined the game for me, that is for sure. Very unfortunate to see this stuff, but relieved at the same time to know my gut feeling was right all along, and NO they are not BETTER fisherman, NO THEY DON'T PRACTICE MORE. They just CHEAT. 

================================================================================================================================

I did a tournament the other day and it was so obvious that the top of the board was cheating (and one 'guild/group' or whatever in particular) that I got curious and went to google.  So I came across a forum where I found some guy had made this tool:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-dllpnCYfl5bnFyeUdnWldVTFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcKyIVHLTU&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9viKJNDSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUY9KcFf2Ho

http://r55.imgup.net/FP_FishCam475b.png

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36c0qf

https://tune.pk/video/6199838/fishing-planet-hack-tool

He also made several videos of the lakes he had access to at the time of the post and plotted the fishing boxes for them in 3 dimensions, and not only that they unlock a camera that the developers use to test the fish AI so they can watch the bite.  Furthermore I did some reading into what this guy had posted and he gave very detailed explanations of the fishing spawning and bite mechanics.  Not only is he able to see fish that are following the lure but he can see weight/size information on them and make them 'go away' automatically if they aren't in the size range he wants.  Then there's the auto-hook setting... which makes it that much more impossible to compete against.  As he described it you'll never catch 'every fish' some will get off no matter what, but the program ensures that you catch every single one that you possibly could have.  Along with the snag point "ESP" as you can see the video etc.  Oh and by decompiling the engine they have access to the lure database with the attraction values for each lure relative to each fish.... 

So for  all the people that say theres no cheating goin on in this game must be blind, or just stupid. Because it is very obvious the " top " clan/players are russian hackers, and get the hacks from the russian website that specializes in video game hacks. It just so sad to see that the devs of this game do nothing  about it or have a anti-cheat put in place to protect the legit players that play and spend money on this game. They let the script kiddies do what they want. Untill they do anything about it dont expect to win any comps/tournaments because you simply cannot compete with the overpowered cheats that exist in this game.Dont get me wrong when i came across this information i was disgusted and stunned that theres nothing in place to prevent people from using 3rd party programs in this game. Good luck in ur next competition ( you are gonna need tons of it and probably still won win lol )

 

 

After reading this and looking at the links, it is quite obvious people are using hacks to gain a complete advantage over the ones like myself that are honest and just playing the game without any BS cheats. Very Sad to see this! It explains why that 5.1 to 5.5 average in that April tourney seemed a little "Fishy"! Now was their a few that have been playing the game long enough and could accomplish this? Maybe a couple, but consistently in every tourney shouldn't be possible. The Devs should obviously make the game more realistic, fish move all the time, if you fish a lake this year in a tourney, doesn't mean they will be there 4 months from now. Make people earn these wins and not just have the same damn patterns work every time in the same location! Just my two cents!

 

Upset to find out Devs haven't corrected this over 5 months after this quote above!!

 

Peace

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Yeah those are the same spots I was fishing, with a 3/0 walker and a 3/0 frog popper. might have been your bait and hooksize, which is kind of bullshit cosidering every single effin tournament I've joined it's just been an effing massacre, even the lakes I know inside and out like Oregon, they fuck with the spots and the bite rate, unless you know EXACTLY the spot to manipulate the RNG. I'm very happy for you winning, hope you make it all the way to florida and win the whole thing.     I will not be entering another competition until they add 3rd party anti cheat to the game.

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Couldn't they simply move the Fish boxes around from time to time so that even if someone get's a hold of the box map, they will not be in the same place.  And I don't think suspending comps, or turnys is the answer.  If the general player population know there are people who have the fish box map, and choose to compete anyway, well, it's their choice right. take their chances.

 

 

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On 11/6/2017 at 6:51 PM, SteamingPolak said:

So i just came across a forum post on steam and would love to hear an explanation from the DEVS or they probably don't give a damn?

For all the people that said i was wrong or this and that. No. You were wrong. EXPLAIN TO ME why i spend 400$ on DLCs but yet i have to deal with this crap?

We are talking about the PC version and not PS4 here. I knew this was a problem all along and tried to get the DEVS attention or anyone for that matter to do SOMETHING. But of course nothing has been done and its just terrible news to see stuff like this come out. I'm pissed off to have spent over 400$ on DLCs and to know that none of the money is going towards improving the integrity of the game. Because right now there is none. Its a scripting shit show. Ruined the game for me, that is for sure. Very unfortunate to see this stuff, but relieved at the same time to know my gut feeling was right all along, and NO they are not BETTER fisherman, NO THEY DON'T PRACTICE MORE. They just CHEAT. 

================================================================================================================================

I did a tournament the other day and it was so obvious that the top of the board was cheating (and one 'guild/group' or whatever in particular) that I got curious and went to google.  So I came across a forum where I found some guy had made this tool:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-dllpnCYfl5bnFyeUdnWldVTFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcKyIVHLTU&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e9viKJNDSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUY9KcFf2Ho

http://r55.imgup.net/FP_FishCam475b.png

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36c0qf

https://tune.pk/video/6199838/fishing-planet-hack-tool

He also made several videos of the lakes he had access to at the time of the post and plotted the fishing boxes for them in 3 dimensions, and not only that they unlock a camera that the developers use to test the fish AI so they can watch the bite.  Furthermore I did some reading into what this guy had posted and he gave very detailed explanations of the fishing spawning and bite mechanics.  Not only is he able to see fish that are following the lure but he can see weight/size information on them and make them 'go away' automatically if they aren't in the size range he wants.  Then there's the auto-hook setting... which makes it that much more impossible to compete against.  As he described it you'll never catch 'every fish' some will get off no matter what, but the program ensures that you catch every single one that you possibly could have.  Along with the snag point "ESP" as you can see the video etc.  Oh and by decompiling the engine they have access to the lure database with the attraction values for each lure relative to each fish.... 

So for  all the people that say theres no cheating goin on in this game must be blind, or just stupid. Because it is very obvious the " top " clan/players are russian hackers, and get the hacks from the russian website that specializes in video game hacks. It just so sad to see that the devs of this game do nothing  about it or have a anti-cheat put in place to protect the legit players that play and spend money on this game. They let the script kiddies do what they want. Untill they do anything about it dont expect to win any comps/tournaments because you simply cannot compete with the overpowered cheats that exist in this game.Dont get me wrong when i came across this information i was disgusted and stunned that theres nothing in place to prevent people from using 3rd party programs in this game. Good luck in ur next competition ( you are gonna need tons of it and probably still won win lol )

 

 

K so the first link is old so it really doesn't help anyone and even if it did they would still have to contend with RNG. The second link is an ESP (I explained what it was in a previous post) that is old and never went into circulation, I know the person that made it he made it as a troll to all the people asking for ESPs on MPGH. The third link is a scam and won't get you anything but wasted time, this guy does this for almost every multiplayer game out there. Regarding the fourth link, Cheat Engine doesn't work for FP do to most of the information being server side which me that Cheat Engine edit the data. The fishcam was a couple of dataminers poking around in the files, they found it and decided to see how it worked on a private server, also it's quite old and probably not in the main file set anymore. As for the sixth link for some reason dailymotion didn't want to load for me but judging by the title it had to do with Cheat Engine which once again does not work for FP. AS for the last link the use of custom window that is just cheat engine with a preloaded cheat table(probably nothing there) that a lot trainers are made out of, once again it's Cheat Engine so it doesn't work.

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