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If you can demonstrate to us - the masses - how to get 3 dot popping, I will pay for a years Premium to a random player of the FP teams choice who uses this forum.

I can get 2 dots consistently, but I've never even entered the hallowed ground of 3 dots when it comes to poppers.

Give us a vid of 3 dot popping, tell us how to achieve it in said vid and I will pay for 12 months of premium that you can transfer to the player of your choice.

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Yea that 3dot retrieval with any popper is an issue that bugs me too, I catch plenty & top tier weights with the 2dot but always think "Man if I could master 3dot I'd be deadly lol". The only way I've ever accomplished 3dot was after a missed strike & the popper goes way under water, then I just keep doing the 2dot rythm but it miraculously becomes a 3dot retrieval until lure reaches the surface; sure enough just about every time it happens I hook a top tier fish before the lure reaches the surface. Possible this is intended but if so really hope it gets changed, because purposely missing a fish to achieve the 3dot retrieval isn't practical.

 
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ja,  trying to get the 3 dot on popper

So, my experience so far

1 dot is basically speed 1, R2 constant and L2 with some rhythm

2 dots, speed 1-2, L2 and R2,  stop R2, popper will go little bit tail-down, R2 and L2

3 dots, (1 out of 10 or more tries) speed 2 OR 3. more 3, L2 and R2, stop R2 sharply and fast R2 and L2

I know, looks horrible, does not make sense, movement goes against all physic laws and fish will like be scared and swim away.

Never ever caught anything (due it only last fractions of a sec on screen)

I think you have more luck catching anything with FULL speed (4)

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Yeah, I've seen claims too T, but they miraculously go quiet when asked how or for a vid.

I've used poppers a lot and I haven't even had the brief foray into the 3 dot territory the guys mention above, missed strikes or not.

Free year of Premium for someone if you can persuade the devs to show us how...I'm a man of my word.

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18 minutes ago, tombomb79 said:

High stakes VV and I love the eargerness an we need to see more competition of some value between are friends an peers.

I'm a man of my word Tom.

If they provide us with a tutorial for 3 dot popping I'll either transfer the cost of a years Premium to the selected players Paypal account, or I'll buy it in my FP account and the devs can transfer it over to their selected player.

Quite frankly, I don't believe it's actually possible to get a constant 3 dot retrieve. Maybe they can prove me wrong?

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 Wish they could transfer my gold into another players account in a head to head tournment  if you can prove to out fish me in a top water event lol.  Will we ever see something of value ever transfered between us the players?  VV think you may have stumbled on something an im getting to work on the 3 dot retrieve  in a few. I could use some free premium.

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Ok, I'll take a swing at this.  Never really tried to get 3 dots on frog poppers, but I think I know how I'll do it.  Because the popping works when torque and angle are just right, if I went to a waterway with really strong currents, say, Alaska.  Reeling against the current, at perfect speeds I think it can be done.  The only problem is, frog poppers aren't going to catch a whole lot there.  If I manage to do it, I'll make a video and post it.  And then I'll take the premium hahaha jk

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ALL information available on this matter in FP doesn't show any light at the end of the tunnel or any sign of being close to it.

We might see a 3rd dot flash for a split sec, under abnormal circumstances, but that's it.

Regarding ALL dots in retrieving mechanics, the higher the number of dots, the better you are applying those mechanics and therefore the chances of a catch will rise.

As for August 2018, this mechanics for  poppers are near impossible, useless and a waste of time.

But here comes Violent request to dev's, simple but precise.

Please show us how we should be:

Popping up 3rd dot, maintaining it constant and consistently and its effectiveness

Side note:

I've been having more luck catching with "zero" dots

My approx catching rate: 0 dots: 20%, 1 dot: 60%, 2 dots: 20%

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9 hours ago, oempie said:

Side note:

I've been having more luck catching with "zero" dots

My approx catching rate: 0 dots: 20%, 1 dot: 60%, 2 dots: 20%

I agree 100%.  As far as lure behaviors go, frogs stop, pause, then jump again.  The dot system should reflect how well you mimic a frog's behavior, and a little less on the mechanical popping itself.  And yes, I do understand that the popping is what gets the attention of the fish.  The point is, the three dot system should reflect behavioral effectiveness, not necessarily how frequently someone can get the lure to pop.  Your % numbers are spot on in my experience. Good call!

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Please note that my original challenge extends to the actual popper only, not the frog popper, the frog surface lure or walkers. One step at a time folks 😉

I don't think it matters really though given the lack of response.

If you want to claim your year of free Premium unofficially, post a clear and concise ( original, I'll check ) video of yourself 3 dot popping with an explanation of how to do so and mention my name and why you're doing it in the commentary.

And have a Paypal account seeing as that's the only way I will be able to get it to you seeing as there's no uptake from the devs whatsoever.

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On 8/23/2018 at 12:10 AM, Hate_ful said:

I seen it flash at 3 dots when i miss the strike , usually Dolly or Peacocks . I have had small popper flash 3 dots when coming of snag but im with you it isnt possible to do consistently. 

 

So that begs the question - why does it flash up as 3 dots when a strike is missed, yet is seemingly unattainable at all other times?

I've yet to even see 3 dots, missed strike or not. The dots just disappear entirely as my lure is swamped and below the surface on a missed take.

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Just taking a wild guess here: if the number of dots is in some way connected to the chance of a fish biting, and the attraction of topwater lures is already higher than with the regular lures: maybe they limited the number of dots achievable with topwater lures to two, because the catch rate would just be imbalanced and unfair otherwise?

If that is the case, they should change the way your chances are being calculated. But that'd explain why it's impossible to get more than 2 dots on topwater lures consistently. Maybe even, why you CAN get 3 dots after a missed strike (using the same technique). It's so that you get a second chance of hooking your fish. 

Just brain acrobatics, but that's what I've been pondering 😄

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So, since the update (last Monday) i´ve noticed that when retrieving the popper, its behavior has changed a little bit.

Was playing Muskie Topping yesterday and noticed that the "2 dot" while using popper, is NOW way more consistent and more stable while retrieving than it was. So, in other words, when using popper you'll see "2 dots" basically very easy and it is maintainable throughout the whole retrieve. This will lead to more % in catching with 2 dots. Anyone noticed this?

Also i tried to get a "3 dot" to appear with my previous method ...... not even when snagging or a missed strike, nothing.

Maybe they took it away and as alohastone stated, the max is and will be "2 dots" for poppers.

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Well, my offer and money have been in the open for a month now, none of us here know how to do it and the devs either failed to respond to my challenge or don't know how to achieve it either 😉

A month is a long time, so I therefore retract my offer to provide a years premium and my challenge is officially closed.

We shall never know how it's done guys. Aside from listening to the fantastical claims of those on chat who claim to be able to do it then clam up when you ask for vids or technique. Like the guy who told me there were uni alligator gar...then sent me a pic of his 84lb 'uni'. Yeah, ok dude lol.

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VV, I can only get a consistent 3 AFTER a miss and a fast reel, most of the time with the counsellor S.  I just wanted to share that.  Also, I noticed after a topwater miss, especially with poppers, just get the light taught again and do nothing else, you will 99% of the time get that second strike.  Really no need to get that 2 or 3 dot again.  But like I said, this is what I've experienced.

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2 hours ago, Dachinsta said:

VV, I can only get a consistent 3 AFTER a miss and a fast reel, most of the time with the counsellor S.  I just wanted to share that.  Also, I noticed after a topwater miss, especially with poppers, just get the light taught again and do nothing else, you will 99% of the time get that second strike.  Really no need to get that 2 or 3 dot again.  But like I said, this is what I've experienced.

Ok, not doubting or questioning what you say. But any thoughts as to why would the fabled 3 dots only show up after a missed strike?

I've never even seen 3 dots despite extensive surface lure usage. If you care to rummage through the posts from Jan/Feb you'll find a thread where I travelled everywhere while seeing what would take them when they were introduced ( answer - all predatory fish, could have saved myself a lot of money there ya daft Welsh tit! ).

 

But thanks for the tip on getting the second hit, will definitely be trying that one.

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I remember that post.  That's how I knew Tarpon could be caught with a popper!  Maybe the thought is that after a miss, the fish gets real excited and gets more voracious because it can't believe it missed a delicious meal and want to live up to the prospect of a top predator!🤔

I know for the Pike family, I keep a constant 1 speed reel while popping where as for Bass species I do a 2 speed with the twitch almost the same time, very slow intervals in between.

I think one day I would like to fish with the the Legendary Violentvole...

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