lisa_lisa Posted November 8, 2018 Report Posted November 8, 2018 You replied on Oct 22nd that the new update would fix people using multiple accounts to cheat in competitions. You also asked for people to report if this is still happening. Well I am here to tell you that it is still happening, nothing has changed. Just yesterday I witnessed DrunkKiller/DontWorrySmile competing with both names in multiple comps, heck he finished in top 10 with both names in a couple, robbing honest players of a top 10 finish. He is not the only person cheating. Have you folks just given up on fixing this issue? Why would you tell us it was fixed but its not? 1 Quote
tombomb79 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) prob dont want to spend the money on anti cheat software and hope that people keep there mouth shut and just continue to be cheated on. i personally would like to compete with friends or players i know are legit but again i think this game is very cheap when it comes to new content and rules. Let cheaters knock them selves out playing one another in comps together. Edited November 8, 2018 by tombomb79 Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 8, 2018 Report Posted November 8, 2018 The size of the fish they catch are not garanteed yes they better ther chances with multiple account but they can still be beat. Just enjoy your play and take more enjoyment when you do win knowing that u beat the same person twice if this is the case. And i may be wrong but i dont fink these two are 1 and the same my money would be on sum1 else more fitting but i care less they speak ok 2 me when im in there lobbys so no sleep loss when i see them fly by as i drop from top 3 or top10. Quote
Tsizz Posted November 13, 2018 Report Posted November 13, 2018 All kinds of people cheating using 2 accounts to compete in comps Quote
Pikered Posted November 17, 2018 Report Posted November 17, 2018 when someone wins he is simply better. 1,2,5,100 account or play well or lose. 1 2 Quote
J_3 Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Pikered said: when someone wins he is simply better. 1,2,5,100 account or play well or lose. Thats not entirely true when someone using multiple accounts though. No matter how good you are at the game, there is still an RNG factor in the ecvation, and using multiple accounts is increasing the chances for that factor to favour you. Take "The battle of kaniq" for example. I know how to catch the unique chinook, however it is hard for me to in a effective way affect what size of the fish I get is. Using several accounts increasing the chance for me to catch a big one, where if I only fished with one account the RNG of that happen would be more narrow. Edited November 18, 2018 by J_3 4 Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 Like buying more tickets for a raffle. Unless u buy em all ur not garanteed the prize. Allot of the comps have around 60 - 400 players enter each time Quote
Hate_ful Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Pikered said: when someone wins he is simply better. 1,2,5,100 account or play well or lose. This coming from someone who has used 2nd account . I agree the knowledge these people have is very helpfull and thats why they win . The rules are set up that way by Devs because they know it gives multi account people an advantage . If it wasnt a rule or if the Devs changed it nobody could complain but till then its CHEATING period . Quote
Violentvole Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 23 hours ago, Pikered said: when someone wins he is simply better. 1,2,5,100 account or play well or lose. I disagree, everyone gets 1 chance at a competition to ensure a fair result. Anyone using a second account to have another go at a competition is cheating, plain and simple. They're giving themselves another chance while the vast majority of people with only 1 account do not get that chance. If they're so good at these competitions, why do they need another chance? Why didn't they place well during their first go? Because competitions are reliant on RNG so that - theoretically - anyone has a chance of winning/placing. Those using multiple accounts are exploiting that RNG and giving themselves another crack of the whip, unfairly. The rest of us are content to have one try at a competition, accept the result and then walk away digesting what we've learnt for the next time that particular competition rolls around. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, nor am I having a pop at you Pikered. There is simply no way anyone can justify using multiple accounts to fish the same competition twice. People can say the same words and phrases in different ways, but cheating is cheating. If I fish a competition once and someone else fishes that same comp twice - they're cheating. I only fish a few comps, but if I was in a comp and saw a certain someone in that competition and I finished, say, 3rd, and then at the end of the comp I saw that they'd fished again with their second account and knocked me out of the top 3, how is that anything but cheating? 3 Quote
Pikered Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 I wanted to play with a second account but I gave up. If you take a ride well done you will find at least a hundred. However, I just wanted to say that too often it is envy that makes you talk. The named persons are not double accounts. Learning this game requires commitment, maybe they came from steam and because of this they flew away. Maybe they're simply better. It's not fair to do the same competition with multiple accounts, but it's not right to even talk a lot to do it. I apologize for my poor English. 1 Quote
Violentvole Posted November 18, 2018 Report Posted November 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pikered said: I wanted to play with a second account but I gave up. If you take a ride well done you will find at least a hundred. However, I just wanted to say that too often it is envy that makes you talk. The named persons are not double accounts. Learning this game requires commitment, maybe they came from steam and because of this they flew away. Maybe they're simply better. It's not fair to do the same competition with multiple accounts, but it's not right to even talk a lot to do it. I apologize for my poor English. Like I said, I wasn't accusing anyone, least of all you. I have come across a few in my time but I've kept their names off this board. Your English is fine Quote
Miles Smith Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 FP wont fix this issue because it is a low level pos game. most long time gamers know who the cheaters are and they have been named many times in these forums yet FP does nothing except tell us they have fixed the issue even though they haven't. most of the losers/cheaters with multiple accounts are trailer park trash with no jobs or lives and play the damn game 24/7. I do very few comps anymore but when I do its guaranteed I will see a couple losers cheating. Nothing I can do about it so I just try to remember I have a great job, great wife and a couple beautiful kids, each of which are much better than those cheating no life losers that have absolutely NOTHING better to do with their sad pathetic lives than cheat at a video game. If you cheat at a game it reflects who you are in life and I would want nothing to do with those idiots. As well, you know its pretty pathetic when FP actually aligns itself with some of these scumbag cheaters and gives them little prizes to give away to players, so in a way FP is not only not stopping the cheating but promoting it. So in a way we should feel sorry for the sad pathetic life losers and applaude them, as cheating is the one thing in their lives they are good at. Obama would want it that way. Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 Face facts even if the devs could do more people will find a way round it. Making post about hacking, glitching etc yes the devs should sort these things fast and efectively. But come on how do you stop multi accounts. Say they ban someone you tell me how they can stop that person making another account seriously. Notice how many of the top competitors are posting about it when in theory it is them that get robbed of there deserved places. They know its a promblem but remain quiet and keep playing and keep winning. Sorry miles but you seem to just be trying to pull 1 individual down not knowing all the facts your not the only 1 with a job, kids missis some peoples lifestyles allow more time to play and enjoy its time to do the same. The only way i could see multi accounts stopped is by making each account holder pay to play since most wont put a penny in therefore reducing the posible numbers. But then how many people want it like that tell me honestly 3 Quote
oempie Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 I think there is a better way around this, without hitting extremes like kylerobz proposes ( "making each account holder pay to play since most wont put a penny in therefore reducing the possible numbers") Semifinals and final in tournaments. Here the time window to participate is exactly the same as the competition time. 2nd, 3rd or n.. accounts here need other person(s) to participate SIMULTANEOUS during competitions. Problem solved. Now, THE KNOWLEDGE...... if you think you have enough knowledge of or in this game, you can not use it on more than 1 account, unless you give that knowledge to other person(s) in order to participate with your 2nd, 3rd or n-.... accounts, which in the end results in more participants per comp (yes, with more knowledge than your self, zukz but ....) Now, if you are trying to be top-3, to get the sweet x-series xxxxxx, there is only one path, learn, ask, watch videos, get better, each day until the fishing gods give you enough RNG to beat the guys that are better than you 1 Quote
BobNudd10 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 did not know about this cheating I do now and it seems to me very easy to stop as oempie says make the comp time same as tourney semis and finals you only get one go . I actually prefer this as it would make comps much more exciting and nervous for the person competing as when u are done that's your final position and that's that. 2 Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 Yes it is extreme and yes i agree with what your saying but take into account the comps are already set in 2 hour windows how many people complain they dont get to partake due to times id guess alot more than complaints against multi acount they cannot be 100 percent sure about being the same player. Work it out 2hour window of comps that are 30 mins long can only be played by 4 account of 1 single person some are 45 some 1hour reducing the amount a single person could partake. Reducing the 2 hour to say 30 mins or what ever the score time is would 1.unless extra comps leave gaps where there are no comps due to all the extra time of the window shortend 2.as i said end up with more complaint to the devs than ever complained about multi accounts Again it would be a good idea but you have to way up the pros and cons that the devs have in these predicements say 25 percent want less multi accounts 50 percent+ want mor comp times. Less time 4 comps = more people miss out on comps. Remember there are less of us that play comps than there is that want to play comps but have other priorities outside the game restricting them 1 Quote
Hate_ful Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 On PS4 it really shouldnt be that hard to find double accounts each PS4 has a number that is specific to itself . To shouldnt be that difficult to program something to identity how many accounts it uses on their game . They also could check IP address but that is easy to get around . The best way to fix it is lowering the time you have to start and finish comp . 1 Quote
BobNudd10 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 simple answer add more comps , as long as they are cycled correctly so every one has a chance it shouldn't be a problem . also with new lakes come more comps I guess and hope so they will have to do something different than the current format to accommodate the new lakes. 2 Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 Yeh when you put it like that hopefully 5 waterways 2-4 potential new comps on each plus im guessing from what iv seen the 2 we know about are low level venues so add amatur comps as well they gona have to find the extra time to fit them all in. Lets just hope whatever the outcome they find a solution that works. After all the devs pull the strings only time will tell Quote
WhyWeSmile Posted November 19, 2018 Report Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/8/2018 at 2:31 AM, lisa_lisa said: You replied on Oct 22nd that the new update would fix people using multiple accounts to cheat in competitions. You also asked for people to report if this is still happening. Well I am here to tell you that it is still happening, nothing has changed. Just yesterday I witnessed DrunkKiller/DontWorrySmile competing with both names in multiple comps, heck he finished in top 10 with both names in a couple, robbing honest players of a top 10 finish. He is not the only person cheating. Have you folks just given up on fixing this issue? Why would you tell us it was fixed but its not? above named nick, not the same person 1000% Quote
Miles Smith Posted November 21, 2018 Report Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 4:55 PM, WhyWeSmile said: above named nick, not the same person 1000% That's complete BS and you know it. I suspect you are DrunkKiller/DontWorrySmile. I personally have never spoken to you but there are at least 3 or 4 guys in my fishing circle that have been in chat rooms with DrunkKiller and its common knowledge that he is also DontWorrySmile. Heck your brother HappyAssassin even admits it. Secondly, I was in a competition where DrunkKiller finished and a few minutes later in waltzes DontWorrySmile and someone in the competition room called him out for playing 2 names and he admitted it. So take your lying, cheating bullcrap elsewhere. And thanks from all the honest people on FP for doing your best to ruin a decent game. SCUM 6 Quote
Violentvole Posted November 21, 2018 Report Posted November 21, 2018 *reaches for popcorn, finds a beer instead* This just got interesting 2 Quote
KYLEROBZ Posted November 21, 2018 Report Posted November 21, 2018 Keep in mind maybe not today (maybe never) but 1 day theres every possibility that the people using the multi accounts will get caught by the devs and will be punished banned and accounts wiped then all of the wins they acumulate will mean nothing. There the 1s risking it all so think about it they have the biggest loss id definitly rather lose 100 comps than lose my record of 100 wins. Im useless at writing but hopefully you can understand what i am tying to say the bigger picture should be looked at in all this. Also new waterways new comp posabilities who knows the future might see these people dragged behind. Nobody knows for certain what lies ahead keep calm and carry on fishing 2 Quote
Pikered Posted November 21, 2018 Report Posted November 21, 2018 In Italy there was a satirical magazine called "why so much hate?". I insist, take it easy, learn to play and win. I'm still with competitions, I'm learning and I'll be back to win them all. ahahahaha Joking aside but in the end why insult? (Trump docet?) Quote
BobNudd10 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Posted November 22, 2018 the devs have a perfect opportunity to sort all this out when they release the new lakes ,as there must be a shake up of the comps as there should be more of them lets see how comitted they are on this subject when new lakes come out . Quote
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