Dennis

[Hate_ful]

On 11/21/2018 at 8:49 PM, Miles Smith said:

That's complete BS and you know it. I suspect you are DrunkKiller/DontWorrySmile. I personally have never spoken to you but there are at least 3 or 4 guys in my fishing circle that have been in chat rooms with DrunkKiller and its common knowledge that he is also DontWorrySmile. Heck your brother HappyAssassin even admits it. Secondly, I was in a competition where DrunkKiller finished and a few minutes later in waltzes DontWorrySmile and someone in the competition room called him out for playing 2 names and he admitted it. So take your lying, cheating bullcrap elsewhere. And thanks from all the honest people on FP for doing your best to ruin a decent game. SCUM

 

 

Well they both qualified in smallmouth cup so we will see if both names actually fish in semi finals. I suspect they will as i dont believe its one person using this Dontworry account but multiple ppl .(Like a group of friends )

 

 

 

[KYLEROBZ]

V.v get ur beers at the ready the plot just thickend

Edited November 22, 2018 by kylerobz

[KYLEROBZ]

Just 2 put it out there i beleive miles smith to be lisa_lisa( no wife 1 and the same) altho i dont think they can be banned for multi accounts on a forum. Any way all the joking aside the devs are watching people i see they dropped 2 from pc qualifiers

[Violentvole]

Watching isn't enough unfortunately. Any infringement of the rules regarding multiple accounts and competitions should result in a ban. Not a warning, not a temporary ban, a permanent IP address ban.

It's understandable that some IPs will have more than one account registered, wives/gfs/kids want to play too. In those instances, only one of those accounts should be used for competitions and demonstrably so given how so many people use it as an excuse.

In that instance, the alpha male simply needs to grow a pair and tell the partner/kids to play all they want but no competitions. That is legitimate multiple accounts on one IP address - when only one of the multiple accounts enters competitions.

If the wife/gf objects, tell them that ok, we'll get a second phone line, internet provider and broadband at a cost of XXX, see how she likes it then. If the kids object, delete their accounts and kick them outside to do what we did as kids and actually play with friends outdoors

The last paragraph is, of course, tongue in cheek..

Edited November 22, 2018 by Violentvole
Typo edit

[KYLEROBZ]

Maybe tongue in cheek but definetly alot of truth ther. And yes the alpha male should be the only one entering comps/tournys. Standard. Im not technically minded to under stand all this ip address and how it would be unique to each household so to speak. But yes the dev do have the predicement of people suggesting it maybe just other familiy members or freind but you are right 1 person should partake once only. The exuse of the wife playing has just been mentioned on steam by some who had been droped from q1(maybe genuine/ may not) we dont know but the devs at a glance see same ip address enter same tourny regardless if 1 never started q1 they acted upon it also in either the same thread or next to it someone had issues starting q2 the devs replied that they had seen by the data he had been at the wrong water way at the time trying. So to me that shows that not only they see our ip adress but also if needed our every movement ingame. it could be 1 day they  make a wrong noticable move that gives the devs the evidence they need and do decide to permanent ban them. These multiple accounts could even be on borrowed time as we speak who know how many times the devs have examined these peoples gameplay. I can see the devs fine line between this upsetting the genuine players that maybe didnt know but you see 2 people climbing the ranks competatively its a no brainer bye bye account bye bye wins they mite get a new ip a new account but by the time theyve grinded it out in texas would we remember them

[Violentvole]

I can sympathise with those who genuinely have more than one member of a household playing. I know a real good player who said to me "how can I prove to them that myself and my son play on the same IP address?"

The only answer is the one I mention above I think - one IP address, one account does the competitions. I'm not that techy so I don't know the ins and outs of this digital age to be fair. But if there are multiple accounts to a single IP and only one is being used for comps, I see no problem there.

But we've already seen people on this very forum openly admitting to using dual accounts. Those people need to be banned. Not for a week, not for a month, permanently. Each and every one of us should have one chance and one chance only when it comes to competitions. Whether that is accomplished through reducing the timeframe of comps and giving them a set window like tourneys or completely denying multiple accounts is up to the devs.

I, like most here, only have one account, so I have nothing to fear or lose if they did go down the ( admittedly draconian ) 'one IP, one account' route. But I wouldn't contest it.

I know several people using multiple accounts. I will not name them, but why should they get two chances at a comp when I get one?

I think the FP team do all they can to keep on top of this, but I fear that it is beyond their capabilities to stay on top given that it's still happening to this day.

I'm not going to name anyone because they are nice guys who I get along with, plus I don't really do comps anymore. But, is it wrong? Yes.

We've all seen the justifications posted on here and ingame chat, but cheaters are cheaters and I can't really envisage an absolute 100% foolproof way to stop it.

That's FP job..

 

Edited November 22, 2018 by Violentvole
Gorilla fingers typo

[Violentvole]

And, I might add, a lot of the 'big' names are very conspicuous by their absence in this thread.

Why is that I wonder? They've been quick enough to pipe up before, and their English is more than adequate..

I'm proud to be one of us who can hold our hand up and say we have never participated twice in one competition. Unfortunately, not everyone here can make that claim.

Because they're dirty, rotten cheaters no matter how much they try to polish the metaphorical turd.

[KYLEROBZ]

Yes and unfortunatly humans always find a way round obsticals its in our nature. they get banned and they still want to play nothing is ever impossible but perminent ban and account wipe them a few times over hopefully it would start to wear on these people i personaly wouldnt want to start over again with 1 account yet alone multiple. How many hours would it take ×2 to reach kaniq again 

[oempie]

ok, been trying to find "the rules" for this game. have not found them yet, but would like to see specifically the part that talks and warns about this issue.

why? because i see two different things here.

CASE 1: 1 user, 1 system (PC, X1, PS4), 1 IP address, multiple accounts (1 user can NOT play accounts simultaneously)

CASE 2: n users, n systems, 1 IP address, 1 account per user (n users can play simultaneously)

Case 2 would be the normal, every day family/friends gaming quality time. YES they would, will and are sharing ALL information, knowledge, again, zukz. But, hey, aren't "you and me" or "them and us" not sharing our info, intel, knowledge as friends? only difference is the IP address

For Case 1 i can see how this user gains advantage. By being able to participate several times in 1 comp, while the rest of us only get 1 go, this user will acquire  more experience/knowledge for that particular comp. Next time this comp is scheduled, he will be ahead of the rest, "winning" while the rest is still learning

Anyways in my opinion, Case 1 should be severally punished, if caught / demonstrated.

Case 2 is good business for SONY/Microsoft. They sell more systems so i don't think FP will go against these giants

EDIT:

Found the rules and the terms of use. Been reading, very long, haven't found the specific part yet....

Edited November 23, 2018 by oempie
Found "the rules"

[KYLEROBZ]

Were the rules are conserned very little is shown to players. Maybe when first loggin into fp a disclaimer stating and highlighting the rules of play( most still wont read) including myself i usualy just scroll down and click accept. And also a tab RULES ingame they found room for missions tab so making room for the most important facts should be applied. Also the useless tips on loading screen could show small but important facts of rules of play(sorry for mentioning another game) my kids play fortnite and i regulaly see these things pop up while loading. This way even if and i know its cruel on as mentioned family play but if any foul play suspected they are well within there rights to ban instantly after all wether read or not in afect we ticked the box when we started. And even for us that already play a new pop up to sign is as easy as new adds for events or dlc. 

Edited November 23, 2018 by kylerobz

[KYLEROBZ]

And so people understand most of us do have others in the house that would like to play my 4 year old son and 5 year old girl enjoy having a go which i supervise so not to bin my equipment or use all my money traveling randomly(usualy pulling a uni in when they do have a go) my son caught the first vamp this year for me. But would i let them have there own account when that would be the safer option for me the answer is a big fat NO theyve got games to play this is mine. As v.v said grow a pair if u play competative after all this is your thing not theres. And i do understand that maybe ur the little brother(or sister) in the house and ur older siblings want to play which can lead to you having no control over them playing and competing. Well if u enjoy this game as much as some of us do kid smash his console up open his account and spend evry penny bin all his rods and gear i think this game is worth a beating evry once and a while if it means u keep ur single account for your household

[Rotacomando]

hace 8 horas, oempie dijo:

ok, been trying to find "the rules" for this game. have not found them yet, but would like to see specifically the part that talks and warns about this issue.

https://fishingplanet.com/TournamentRules.htm

[KYLEROBZ]

Maybe adding this when pressing the apply for tournys/comps with a acceptance tick box ( a pain for comps if applying for a few at a time) but as i said youve then bin read your rights and accept any punishment they throw at you for competing twice if suspected

[Pikered]

I know two people who have been disqualified, so there is control. All those left played with only one account. The rules of the game also say that the fishing rod must be proportionate to the weight of the fish, take small trout with the brutus ... cheaters.
It's not fair to compete with two accounts, I'm the first to say it. But I remain of the idea that many are only envious of the results of others. Read all the rules and you will realize how many rules you are violating. Greetings from Rome.

[KYLEROBZ]

Now thats a different kettle of fish all together u catch different species usual so some times take for instance my setups allow me to fish sum smaller fish but remain strong enough to pull in anything i accidently hook in that given area which im guessing so do most people. if the fish is small when going after the big species we lose xp now say for instance we were breaking a rule by using overpowered gear would it not be on the devs heads for 1 not moving small and large to seperate areas which would ruin the aim of fishing. 2 again if it is a rule they should set gear limitations to waterways. Tell me would you be happy losing ur xseries or baitcoin lures because you take an 11lb setup for bass and hook an 80lb gar i think not 

[Pikered]

You are right, but it is the regulation fp. Mine was just a provocation.

[Tmif]

39 minutes ago, Pikered said:

You are right, but it is the regulation fp. Mine was just a provocation.

Seriously curious as to which rule you are referring to. Only thing I can see that comes close to what you are referring to is 4.02 which deals with "intentionally exploiting the physics system" to bring in fish faster or bigger. Using a larger setup is not exploiting the physics system.

[Miles Smith]

some may find this interesting. It also confirms Hate_ful's theory. One of the people in our fishing group also spends some time in the same chatroom as DrunkKiller and HappyAssasin and has them on his friend's list as well. I think he said they are brothers  This is how we know DrunkKiller is also DontWorrySMile. Anyway he told me this morning before the semi final tournament that DrunkKiller qualified in 1st qualifier. Happyassasin failed to qualify so he then used the DontWorrySMile account to qualify. Since none of us qualified we watched the leaderboard and sure enough both DrunkKiller and DontWorrySMile were playing the semi final. He also noted that 5 mins before the semi final HappyAssasin logged off and reappeared just after the semi finals ended. This in no way would have effected me in this tournament but I do feel bad that whoever finished 31st in the 2nd qualifier was robbed of advancement by a couple of scumbag cheaters.

[Tmif]

While I agree with most of the posts denouncing cheating, this is at least the 3rd or 4th topic covering this issue. Let's face facts. FP, either willfully or through inaction, doesn't care.

[Violentvole]

On 11/23/2018 at 12:07 PM, Pikered said:

 But I remain of the idea that many are only envious of the results of others.

I've said many times that the guys who put the time in have my utmost respect. They train on a level far beyond what I'm willing to do, I just enter the odd competition for fun.

But we're talking about people using multiple accounts to fish the same competition - and we all know some - those people do not have my respect. At all.

[Pikered]

Edited November 24, 2018 by Pikered

[oempie]

so, i couple of hours ago i finished the semifinal. placed 28. not bad

turned ps4 off, had lunch, did stuff here and there,  logged back on for a go on comp Yellow perch goldrush

message pops up ....... i now in final, semi-final place: 18

seems 10 guys in front of me got banned hammered out of this planet, Fishing Planet..

Anyways, i am happy? yes, am i proud? not really

why, because i placed 28th in a comp of 58, meaning i could not beat them, even if they cheated here and there, i should have done better.

feels a little like i "got helped" into the final and not by my own means, like most of the guys qualified.

Anyways, tomorrow I'll  be taking this 2nd opportunity.

 

 

[Pikered]

 I did not participate in the tournament.

 

[Rotacomando]

hace 12 minutos, oempie dijo:

so, i couple of hours ago i finished the semifinal. placed 28. not bad

turned ps4 off, had lunch, did stuff here and there,  logged back on for a go on comp Yellow perch goldrush

message pops up ....... i now in final, semi-final place: 18

seems 10 guys in front of me got banned hammered out of this planet, Fishing Planet..

Anyways, i am happy? yes, am i proud? not really

why, because i placed 28th in a comp of 58, meaning i could not beat them, even if they cheated here and there, i should have done better.

feels a little like i "got helped" into the final and not by my own means, like most of the guys qualified.

Anyways, tomorrow I'll  be taking this 2nd opportunity.

 

 

I went bad, I finished in 52 ... Did not come good fish, I noticed that I am now at 42.

Good luck tomorrow

[Violentvole]

So they're weeding out the cheaters? Good.