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So I have noticed that top 5 in competitions almost always are the same people. And they always pull away with huge numbers. And these people have played on steam and now the windows version. Crossplay is great but it litteraly sucks doing competitions when on the xbox. There must be something that is alot better on pc that makes it easier to catch fish.  There is no way of keeping up. People are in chat talking about hax etc. I understand they are good and have played alot. But how do they always get good RNG?

Anyone have input on this? Please reply. I think this might be interesting to figure out

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They are experienced players who know the best techniques for each fish.
Some of them play on the PC and some on the console, but that doesn't mean the PC is better than console gaming.
You need to train and know the best baits, schedules and techniques for each fish and so will improve a lot in competitions.

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2 hours ago, p73s said:

So I have noticed that top 5 in competitions almost always are the same people. (...) I understand they are good and have played alot. But how do they always get good RNG?

The more I'm playing competitions, the more I come to the realization that it's not so much about RNG, but more about knowledge, skill, and training. And that's why you always see the same names in the top 10 on almost every competition. They've played a lot, trained a lot, and know what they're doing. Which is especially true for the people that are organized in clubs, as they all share their knowledge with each other.

Some competitions are more RNG-based than others. Especially the ones where you have to catch fish with a specific weight (e.g. Trout Hunter, Muskie Topping, Breaking Shad, Ghost Carp, etc.). For those, you still need luck to be in your favor - even if you know all the spots, lures, etc. Even for C'Mon Carp or Dancing with Pike and the like, you not only have to know where and how to catch the Uni, but also have a lot of RNG to get a fat one in order to score high. Depending on the conditions though, some people manage to get 2 or 3 unis, while most of us can catch only one. Because they know more spots than most of us. Which of course will increase your chances a lot.

But for most competitions, it all comes down to knowledge.

I was also whining about hacks and cheats when I started with comps, as I couldn't understand how other people were catching so much more fish. But the more you play, the more you realize that it is indeed possible to keep up with the top players. And that they're not using hacks, cheats or exploits.

It helps to check YouTube and Twitch for competition videos /streams, talk to other players for tips, but most of all test things out, gather knowledge on your own - and write it down. One comp I never understood is the San Joaquin Extravaganza. To me, this is one of the hardest ones, as you have to catch several different fish in order to score high. You have to know the timezones, spots and lures, and have to have a specific plan when to target which species. You have to fish by the book - and to some extend by feeling. And if you're doing everything right, you will score somewhere in the top 10 / 20. It's only the last couple of kgs that depend on RNG. Which I believe is true for most comps.

So the best advice I can give you is: play, play, play, get in touch with other people, and take notes of what works and what doesn't. I always have a pen and paper by my side when doing comps. I take notes, and every once in a while combine it to a spreadsheet for each comp / tournament. And it helped me a lot.

@iGoshawk once shared the spreadsheet he did for himself with the community. It might be a good start, and make it easier for you to take notes about the comps. Print it out, and have it by your side when you take part in comps: 

The Ubersheet is also a good source of information when it comes to uni timezones and the like - even though it is kind of outdated for some species / waterways. This is the 2019 version, which might have the most up-to-date information there is - even though it is a pain in the butt to look at 😄 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AXvozgEsNcWoS_FGOCX9JJCpCm9ZejfBvBX7dWf2i5Y/edit#gid=205531236

Here's another (older?) one, with nicer formatting: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wEvjycxSaVLNmVOCIZPALsPvLtxnJSz_LDcPKowAFb4/edit#gid=1935795731

The way I go about is to start with the Ubersheet, check the times for myself, and then combine it to sheet like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=128Fn2QTcZNBVc7ufd7_4iESI_ACPx5eW 

It's nerdy and a lot of work, but if you like the competitive aspect of the game, there really is no other way. And the time people put into the game is why they are always in the top 5 ;)

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