Emerald lake Needs updated?

[SidePocket08]

In my opinion Emerald Lake needs some updating, Like a platform that can only be reached by boat so you can fish for saugers. And be able to use a rod stand on that platform.

Needs a few buildings like a shop and a few small cabins. And a larger beach area. The lake just seems to be to dual and plain and when your spending a long time at the lake it would be nice to have a few more options on where you can fish and some better scenery.  

 

[BabyBoomer_60]

I agree if you just use the dock and the beach it is a bit limited, but around this time you may have have unlocked a kayak. If so consider getting one as it opens up a lot more possibilities and if I remember there are some other beaches that are only accessible by boat/kayak. There is also a little stream at the end at the rhs I think. 

[perswonal-eclipse]

IMHO, if anything needs an update it The Everglades. Four small piers and no boating. Unless I'm missing something that makes for fisherperson rage (if there was such a thing). Hard enough to pay the expenses, much less having to compete for a spot to fish to make any money. 

[Tonto]

On 12/15/2020 at 6:33 AM, perswonal-eclipse said:

IMHO, if anything needs an update it The Everglades. Four small piers and no boating. Unless I'm missing something that makes for fisherperson rage (if there was such a thing). Hard enough to pay the expenses, much less having to compete for a spot to fish to make any money. 

 

How can you not make money in Florida with the best paying fish in North American waterways?

 You can pull out 40 bass in 1 hour real time.  At over 325 in silver per kilogram you can easily cover expenses

[SidePocket08]

I'm sorry but Emerald Lake is like fishing out of a mud hole.  But I think you can make the most money there? Right now I'm on my 5th day in California and I think I am going to try and get a unlimited license for this lake. So far it's my favorite. And you get a lot of XP on this lake as well. 

I do think they need to let you use a boat at the Everglades, Other then that it steel beats Emerald lake hands down. Just my opinion. 

[perswonal-eclipse]

You're all missing something if you think Emerald Lake is bad.

Try this......

You pay $3000 for travel plus whatever the license is......
Now, I  took a 330 lb keepnet and decided to fill it up using 1 ultralight rod and spoons, spinners, and jigs. 

It took 24 game time hours to get 329.258 lbs of 330.7
Total fish 146. (average fish weighed 2.25lbs)
Total money $41095. (average fish  paid $281.)
Total experience 12884. (average experience per fish 88)

At White Moose you pay $7800 plus license......
1 rod with lures, same net......330.009lbs of 330

Total fish 24 (average 13.75)

Total money $22665 (average $944)

Total Experience 7326 (average 335)

You decide. Would you rather make $41095 - $3000+license or $22665 -7800 plus license?
Which one shows the greater profit?

At St Croix (9800 TVL) you would average 13 fish for a total of $15038 and 3318 experience.

That $15038 - 9800 plus license....

Sure you make more money per fish and get more experience per fish, but in the long run, you end up with less total money in your pocket.

Your choice. I did White Moose and St Croix with a 485 lb net as well. Attempted Emerald had $39865 but extending the stay emptied the net.
Either way, Emerald puts more money in your pocket. It just takes more time.

 

[Benji]

Emerald is good when lower level but not a patch on St Croix, you will make far more money for the real time spent there, which is more important especially the higher you get, the grind would be too much at Emerald past level 30 

[perswonal-eclipse]

6 hours ago, Benji said:

Emerald is good when lower level but not a patch on St Croix, you will make far more money for the real time spent there, which is more important especially the higher you get, the grind would be too much at Emerald past level 30 

Totally not true. Emerald is a grind,  but St Croix is a losing endeavor unless you fish it daily or quite often.

Travel to St Croix is $9800 plus the license. Get a one day license $8000. You've paid $17800 for one day fishing at St. Croix.
Target Blue Catfish and pay bait costs. Use cheap medium cut at $370 for 10. 20 is $740.

Here's how I did with a premium account and a 485lb keepnet.

29 Fish.
Money earned $26830
Experience earned 4730

Total weight 483.927 of 485.017
Average weight 16.68 lbs

Average pay $925

Average Experience 163

Per fish it looks great, but you were <$18540> in the red when you started between travel, license and bait.
You brought in $26830.

$26830 - $18540 = $8290 that actually went into your pocket.

Compare that to Emerald.....
Travel $3000. License $900. No bait cost.

Today I pulled in 111 Fish. $31791. 9930 experience.

That's $31791 - $3900 = $27,891 in the pocket dollars.

San Joaquin is no different.
28 fish. $32002. 7366 experience.

Don't forget you started out $17800 plus any bait in the red.

So $32002 - $17800 = $14202 (if you didn't use bait).

What it comes down to is....

You can't put enough of the larger fish in a moderate size keepnet to make those lakes pay off like Emerald does. I've done this several times with different nets and I'm here to tell the newer members.....

Don't rush yourself to the higher level lakes until you have a decent sized net (551 or 660). Sure make trips to all the lakes available, but grind out Emerald if you need money. And if you need money Emerald is the place to find it (that doesn't cost an arm and leg).

I'm well past level 30 and still fish Emerald (occasionally at least) due to the money factor.  And the money you put in your pocket is as real as it gets when it comes down to affording the rods, reels, boat and equipment you want.
 

 

 

[Benji]

13 hours ago, perswonal-eclipse said:

Totally not true. Emerald is a grind,  but St Croix is a losing endeavor unless you fish it daily or quite often.

Travel to St Croix is $9800 plus the license. Get a one day license $8000. You've paid $17800 for one day fishing at St. Croix.
Target Blue Catfish and pay bait costs. Use cheap medium cut at $370 for 10. 20 is $740.

Here's how I did with a premium account and a 485lb keepnet.

29 Fish.
Money earned $26830
Experience earned 4730

Total weight 483.927 of 485.017
Average weight 16.68 lbs

Average pay $925

Average Experience 163

Per fish it looks great, but you were <$18540> in the red when you started between travel, license and bait.
You brought in $26830.

$26830 - $18540 = $8290 that actually went into your pocket.

Compare that to Emerald.....
Travel $3000. License $900. No bait cost.

Today I pulled in 111 Fish. $31791. 9930 experience.

That's $31791 - $3900 = $27,891 in the pocket dollars.

San Joaquin is no different.
28 fish. $32002. 7366 experience.

Don't forget you started out $17800 plus any bait in the red.

So $32002 - $17800 = $14202 (if you didn't use bait).

What it comes down to is....

You can't put enough of the larger fish in a moderate size keepnet to make those lakes pay off like Emerald does. I've done this several times with different nets and I'm here to tell the newer members.....

Don't rush yourself to the higher level lakes until you have a decent sized net (551 or 660). Sure make trips to all the lakes available, but grind out Emerald if you need money. And if you need money Emerald is the place to find it (that doesn't cost an arm and leg).

I'm well past level 30 and still fish Emerald (occasionally at least) due to the money factor.  And the money you put in your pocket is as real as it gets when it comes down to affording the rods, reels, boat and equipment you want.
 

 

 

Mate I am level 62 almost 63 haha, it's not the Catfish you target at St. Croix, its pike and muski, you will make a lot more money in real time so long as you know what you are doing, I find Emerald too bland and a lot of a grind, the bass lakes and trout lakes are much more fun and you still make good money, remember you want to stay at a lake for as long as possible to simply offset the travel costs, I have over 2 million cash in game now so I am not too worried about it now but once you hit level 40 from memory you will find it hard to beat San Joaquin for money and xp when you are going after sturgeon with bottom rods 

[PokerXXL]

vor 35 Minuten schrieb Benji:

the bass lakes and trout lakes are much more fun and you still make good money

High Five

I spent baitscoins on the unlimited license in New York because some Youtubers recommended it.

For me afterwards this is an unnecessary expense, as I personally much prefer to go virtual perch and trout.

Better 120 real days in a row in a trout lake than 1 Ingame day in New York.

I'm now at level 65, ranking 4, and I still need 270,000 experience points for ranking 5.

To have to collect all these experience points at Emerald Lake would be like screeching the chalk on the blackboard during my school days for me.

 

Imho here you can see very well why, from a certain level, bodies of water like in New York lose their importance for the level up.

Experience

 

Am 2.12.2020 um 3:48 PM schrieb SidePocket08:

And be able to use a rod stand on that platform.

At the Emerald Lake there is a rather dilapidated jetty behind the island that can be reached by boat.

Last year I was able to set up a rod stand for 2 rods there, but it was a bit tricky to find the right place.

[SidePocket08]

I spent baitscoins too for the unlimited license for Emerald  from those same Youtubers that recommended it. Sure wish I would have kept them, I would much rather have a unlimited license for  San Joaquin or St. Croix. The coast of those keepnets are insane. But you do need a really big one for those lakes. I have the 440lb net and I can fill it in about 3 to 4 game hours at  San Joaquin. Emerald takes all day and night to fill it up. I really like the lake in Canada too, I can catch pike with about every cast using a jerkbait.

And San Joaquin, St. Croix, Canada The fish put up a better fight then the fish at Emerald. Much more fun reeling in those fighters. 

[BabyBoomer_60]

I agree St Croix and San Joaquin are better for grinding than Emerald and whilst I had to return to Emerald quite a few times to grind/unlock St Croix I think once you have done it you will probably not go back to Emerald except maybe just to complete a mission. I found St Croix really good fun and I will definitely return there to stalk the monster muskie but I doubt I will buy  an unlimited licence - I can always cover my costs as a free to play player there. 

I think if I was going to buy an unlimited licence I may wait possibly to unlock Weeping Willow although I can cover my costs there too. I think with it's variety it is a lake that you will wish to return to time and time again and you will probably get good value from an unlimited licence there. 

Blue Crab seems to be the quickest to grind out the higher levels and provides a huge waterway to explore and prospect for fish with lures but I doubt I will buy an unlimited licence there. I may consider getting an unlimited licence for Marron River but it all depends on play style etc.

So to sum it up basically as I move up the game I tend to find I have not revisited lakes as much as I thought I would, except for Weeping Willow. So consider your unlimited licence purchases carefully. Play styles vary some play lots of competitions and maybe unlimited licences for their favorite competition lakes would suit and some may only be able to play for short periods in which case they may really some need unlimited licences

I am still having fun and looking forward to unlocking my next lake and also trying out some of the higher level carp baits

tight lines     

[perswonal-eclipse]

10 hours ago, Benji said:

Mate I am level 62 almost 63 haha, it's not the Catfish you target at St. Croix, its pike and muski, you will make a lot more money in real time so long as you know what you are doing, I find Emerald too bland and a lot of a grind, the bass lakes and trout lakes are much more fun and you still make good money, remember you want to stay at a lake for as long as possible to simply offset the travel costs, I have over 2 million cash in game now so I am not too worried about it now but once you hit level 40 from memory you will find it hard to beat San Joaquin for money and xp when you are going after sturgeon with bottom rods 

I think we have different styles and that's cool. I won't argue with you levels or targets or money (I only have $883756). And level means little to anyone except something the flaunt. The lakes pay what they pay regardless. 

What you target and your opinion is another choice you have to make. And if you're satisfied with the choices you made, then by all means, its not my aim to change that. But I've given real numbers that don't rely on opinion and are based on real game play of one day at Emerald compared to the others using smaller keepnets for those newer players who need money.   

Yes, I did two days at White Moose spending $20200 for travel, 3 day license, extension, and bait with the 485 lb keepnet. .
In two days, 70 fish, 958 lbs paying $61534.
Take away the $20200 for expenses and you come out with a positive balance of $41334.
And that's in 2 days. The third day would be free money except for the $1000 extension fee.

Did the same at San Joaquin.
Travel license and bait come to $36460 spent up front.
In two days 56 fish for 960 lbs paying $68224.
Minus the $36460 you net $31864 in two days at San Joaquin.
Again, except for the $2000 extension fee, the third day would be all free money.

Notice the profit margin is better at White Moose than at San Joaquin in a two day trip using a 485 lb keepnet?

My opinion, which means nothing, Emerald is where you can make best use of a 330 lb keepnet.
At San Joaquin you again need to consider upgrading equipment and net. These steps are built in to game and proven in the SHOP where certain items are reserved until one reaches a certain level.

There is truly no wrong choices to make just some choices that are better than others.

 

 

[Benji]

At this point it's not worth going over and over about it, so long as it's still fun for you that's all that matters, its just not what I would recommend doing if you are trying to progress in the fastest way that is all

[perswonal-eclipse]

On 1/14/2021 at 3:39 AM, Benji said:

At this point it's not worth going over and over about it, so long as it's still fun for you that's all that matters, its just not what I would recommend doing if you are trying to progress in the fastest way that is all

I agree. Its all good no matter how you choose to fish or what lake. And I should be more clear about my comments pertaining to a smaller keepnet, like 330lbs. One would be hard pressed to fill a 485lb net at Emerald in 24 hours IMO. And anything larger would be even harder.
 

[perswonal-eclipse]

On 1/13/2021 at 12:01 PM, PokerXXL said:

High Five

I spent baitscoins on the unlimited license in New York because some Youtubers recommended it.

For me afterwards this is an unnecessary expense, as I personally much prefer to go virtual perch and trout.

Better 120 real days in a row in a trout lake than 1 Ingame day in New York.

I'm now at level 65, ranking 4, and I still need 270,000 experience points for ranking 5.

To have to collect all these experience points at Emerald Lake would be like screeching the chalk on the blackboard during my school days for me.

 

Imho here you can see very well why, from a certain level, bodies of water like in New York lose their importance for the level up.

Experience

 

At the Emerald Lake there is a rather dilapidated jetty behind the island that can be reached by boat.

Last year I was able to set up a rod stand for 2 rods there, but it was a bit tricky to find the right place.

Yes, money and experience are two facets of the game that won't go away unfortunately. And if you have the ability to go to White Moose or St  Croix, and a larger keepnet, I wouldn't consider Emerald.

With that in mind I took a 660lb keepnet to a 5 day challenge at St Croix and White Moose, lakes where it is very possible to fill a larger nets in a single day. And I did fill it each day (within a 1 pound of limit).

The totals for St Croix were $172,345 and 30274 XP. The totals reflect 4 days fishing since you don't have to do anything but extend for a fifth day to complete the challenge. I would likely make some changes to how I fished St Croix if/when I do it again. Noon on day four the rods and reels were beat up. Nothing below 60% but to complete the challenge with a full net and save the equipment, I switched from Northern, Muskie, cats to Walleye, drum, and the like which affected my totals.

I did however pick up a 20.352 Unique Walleye which sits at #1 on the top 100 board (by .002 lb) and the #6 Unique Freshwater Drum. Surprisingly Walleye pay $86.36 per pound compared to $77.27 for Northern. Might be a day when I go back and try to fill the net with Walleye to see how that goes. It was a good 5 days and other than the equipment problems I would have continued.

The fish paying best on St. Croix in order are Walleye, Northern, Smallmouth, Tiger Trout, and the Brown and Brook Trout.

In the challenge at White Moose I did much better $187,197 and 41680XP. The main difference seems to be I caught more Uniques than at St Croix. Again the equipment was beginning to show wear by day four. And honestly, I completely screwed up outfitting for this lake. I took four spinning rigs and 3 bottom rods which proved to be a bad decision. My undoing was not knowing that White Moose has a rocky bottom, something I wouldn't know without trying to bottom fish.

If you do bottom fish White Moose live baits seem the best bet as anything else falls in the crevices of the rock where only Burbot and Whitefish can get to it. 11 Burbot, 8 Whitefish, 2 Atlantic and 1 Lake Trout without a single Northern seem to bear that out. Not to say there is anything wrong with Whitefish. They pay $85.14 per pound compared to the Northern $77.27 per pound. Burbot pays $50 per pound which is better than Lake Trout and Atlantic at $45.45 per pound. It just takes more 3 pound fish than 6 pound fish to fill the net.

Here the best paying fish are Lake Whitefish, Northern, Splake, and Brook Trout. The tiny Lake Chub is 5th and I wouldn't choose to target those. Lake Trout and Atlantic both pay $45.45, and are considerably larger. 

In any case weather was a factor as well as the equipment (St Croix was mostly live bait fishing while White Moose was lures) so expect your results to vary. And experience on each lake played a part since I have fished White Moose much more than St. Croix.

Just know what you are going to target, know how to gear up for those species, and know the lake. And by all means, take the proper gear so you don't end up surprised by the unexpected. Do expect to spend more time at White Moose to fill a 660lb net than St. Croix unless you skip the dead hours and fish the peak times (another thing I didn't do).

In any case: Enjoy Tight Lines!