XpEKe-TSU Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 Hello community. I just wanted to make public what happened to me in a competition. I was quietly trying this competition for the first time, unfortunately trying different variants to catch tiger fish, one of them broke my line. After that, this person started making comments about "being a noob" and that my RNG would be affected by it. Then he also started calling "beginners luck" to other low levels who were catching more fish than him. I understand that this can't be a big deal, but we don't have to be putting up with players with "more experience" or a higher level than us, harassing and annoying us for no reason. We just try to understand the game and improve day by day, no one starts the game knowing everything about it. I hope action is taken, because this has happened to me several times, only now I want to make it public so that action can be taken, I am tired of these characters who only annoy without any valid reason or argument. Thank you very much Quote
Deconstructed Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Elitism in online gaming is nothing new. The best of us share knowledge and help others along to add longevity to a game. The lessor attempt to pad an otherwise fragile ego by some imaginary self-worth. Sometimes it's a bit called for when a newer player tries telling someone who knows better "how it really is", sometimes not. One max level person calling another max level person a noob is really kind of comical. I don't know if this thread will stick around (due to personally calling someone out). That said, I hear where you're coming from. My best advice, ignore it as much as you can. I understand sometimes that is difficult. During the earlier years of this game being a very well known player I was called about every name in the book. No matter what you do or say there will always be someone with a chip on their shoulder and a contrary opinion. Edited June 4, 2022 by Deconstructed 3 Quote
XpEKe-TSU Posted June 4, 2022 Author Report Posted June 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Deconstructed said: Elitism in online gaming is nothing new. The best of us share knowledge and help others along to add longevity to a game. The lessor attempt to pad an otherwise fragile ego by some imaginary self-worth. Sometimes it's a bit called for when a newer player tries telling someone who knows better "how it really is", sometimes not. One max level person calling another max level person a noob is really kind of comical. I don't know if this thread will stick around (due to personally calling someone out). That said, I hear where you're coming from. My best advice, ignore it as much as you can. I understand sometimes that is difficult. During the earlier years of this game being a very well known player I was called about every name in the book. No matter what you do or say there will always be someone with a chip on their shoulder and a contrary opinion. Thank you so much. Really apreciatte. Im gonna take your advice. 1 Quote
Musette Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 Welcome to noob anonymous. I do very noob things like forget my spod rods, forget my keepnet, and forget to equip a Titanium leader when handling toothy fishies. You are not alone. How many of us have lost their favorite Golem Lure to titanium amnesia? An old-timer who brings-up the mystical term RNG while also telling new players "beginner's luck," really has no clue WTF RNG is. I don't know what these guys mean by RNG. Are they tossing around a buzzword because they are a developer that understands how a random number generator was implemented into a particular fish species on this particular pond? Do they understand how attribute stacking/filtering works within a game system? Do they know if the unique/trophy place holder is regenerated when it is released? Do they know the fish school demographic for the spot they are fishing at? Do they know if sustained nibbling mechanic increases or decreases the size of a unique placeholder? A weirdo nerd like me tickles game mechanics with attribute stacking versus environmental filters (ie: peak time, temp, species behavior, light wavelength, current, bottom terrain, etc.) to convince the fishing engine that she should produce lovely oversized fish for me. If they believe in RNG mechanics, they can't believe in luck. RNG mechanics is luck based when you know absolutely nothing about what you are doing. However, the more you understand the game and the way different mechanics interact with each other, the better your skill becomes in predicting the outcome of WTF. If you can recognize WTF ASAP, you can easily recover and change the outcome of your mistake. Competitions aren't always about perfect execution. If it were, the most skilled player would slay the competition in half the time of everyone else by using keen knowledge to both narrow a RNG band and predict the next active spot. Narrowing a RNG band produces consistent oversized stuff. Often times, it's a matter of correcting mistakes in judgement, casting accuracy, and equipment failure with expediency rather than forcing a bad pattern to produce favorable results. I think too many of us veterans get stuck in forcing a bad pattern to produce favorable results, hence the "beginner's luck" tirade. Adding a titanium leader or switching to a heavier line is a quick and recoverable change. Forcing a bad pattern to produce a favorable results is what ultimately sinks many veterans. Bad habits are hard to unlearn. Therefore, enjoy your noobness and let it help you learn to change your path expediently. During competitions, close chat window and click off chat display so you are not distracted by superfluous chatter. 3 Quote
Deconstructed Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Musette said: Welcome to noob anonymous. I do very noob things like forget my spod rods, forget my keepnet, and forget to equip a Titanium leader when handling toothy fishies. You are not alone. How many of us have lost their favorite Golem Lure to titanium amnesia? An old-timer who brings-up the mystical term RNG while also telling new players "beginner's luck," really has no clue WTF RNG is. I don't know what these guys mean by RNG. Are they tossing around a buzzword because they are a developer that understands how a random number generator was implemented into a particular fish species on this particular pond? Do they understand how attribute stacking/filtering works within a game system? Do they know if the unique/trophy place holder is regenerated when it is released? Do they know the fish school demographic for the spot they are fishing at? Do they know if sustained nibbling mechanic increases or decreases the size of a unique placeholder? A weirdo nerd like me tickles game mechanics with attribute stacking versus environmental filters (ie: peak time, temp, species behavior, light wavelength, current, bottom terrain, etc.) to convince the fishing engine that she should produce lovely oversized fish for me. If they believe in RNG mechanics, they can't believe in luck. RNG mechanics is luck based when you know absolutely nothing about what you are doing. However, the more you understand the game and the way different mechanics interact with each other, the better your skill becomes in predicting the outcome of WTF. If you can recognize WTF ASAP, you can easily recover and change the outcome of your mistake. Competitions aren't always about perfect execution. If it were, the most skilled player would slay the competition in half the time of everyone else by using keen knowledge to both narrow a RNG band and predict the next active spot. Narrowing a RNG band produces consistent oversized stuff. Often times, it's a matter of correcting mistakes in judgement, casting accuracy, and equipment failure with expediency rather than forcing a bad pattern to produce favorable results. I think too many of us veterans get stuck in forcing a bad pattern to produce favorable results, hence the "beginner's luck" tirade. Adding a titanium leader or switching to a heavier line is a quick and recoverable change. Forcing a bad pattern to produce a favorable results is what ultimately sinks many veterans. Bad habits are hard to unlearn. Therefore, enjoy your noobness and let it help you learn to change your path expediently. During competitions, close chat window and click off chat display so you are not distracted by superfluous chatter. A bit off the main topic. Been reading some of your posts. In particular, on carping, baiting, etc. I tried explaining to people long before bottom fishing came around about "schooling fish", how all fish don't simply appear/disappear with each cast of the rod. How important lure size and retrieve speeds were based on fishing conditions. Most thought I was having delusions. Glad to see you've had more success in explaining the finer points of the game. I look forward to reading in more detail as I further explore the baiting aspect of the game. 1 Quote
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