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Soo..I spend a fair bit of time on this game. Since the Rowdies and Lepers went live I've fished exclusively for Rowdies.

I've caught a few knowing the spots, even had 4 or 5 Lepers pick up Bully Grasshoppers unintentionally - I've yet to fish for the lepers specifically.

In the interest of fairness, I have my challenges up right now onscreen and I have 89 Rowdies and 6 lepers. After fishing for the Rowdies exclusively since Monday, one night I spent with Hateful, BJtater and Del and our catch rate was low.

 

So my question is, if someone like me who spends nearly all gaming time on this game ( which amounts to more than most seeing as I only work weekend nights ) and has no trouble catching fish cannot get 150 of just ONE of the event species, how the hell is the average gamer who pops on for an hour or so here and there or when time/circumstances allow supposed to do it?

This event is ending in 36 hours at time of posting, and I'm not even 2/3rds through the Rowdies.

Event is probably being generous. After the Xmas event, which was awesome and a true ' event ' we ( or I at least ) thought the lesson had been learnt after the Halloween gar debacle.

However, if someone who plays as often as I do can't get 150 Rowdies in the time frame without spending 10 hours a day on the game, what chance does the casual player have?

Are you trying to piss all your players away on purpose? This event should run for another week at least. St Paddies day is today, and you're ending the ' event ' tomorrow.

I can understand adding the allure of a challenge to newbies in the name of purchasing items, but most of your playerbase is level 40 and ranked now. There are posts here of level 40 people saying they didn't even bother because they knew how it was going to turn out...doesn't that bother you that they called it so accurately?

It's not just new players who spend money on the game. But by doing crap like this, you push your loyal, long term players further away.

If things are ' working as intended ', I would like to see 2 things:

One of you guys explaining how making the target ( 150 caught ) for just one species damn near unobtainable, never mind getting 150 of both species.

One of you guys logging onto my account and catching either 150 Rowdies or Lepers in the time frame I have to play, which, as I've stated, is a lot more than most people have at their disposal.

On the verge of sending a Collins dictionary to FP HQ with the word ' event ' highlighted.

We thought you had learned lessons and taken our comments to heart after the brilliant Xmas event following the gar debacle. What a difference between the two. One was fun, one was frustrating and a grind. And here we are, back to the grind.

I'm sorry if I sound like I hate the game, I don't. It is fantastic and the best fishing game I've played. You have over £1,000 of my money to prove that.

But you should really look at your Xmas event and wonder why nobody complained about that one while the Gars and Rowdies/Lepers generate critiscism. One of those events was fun, the other two aren't/weren't.

Oh, fix the crankbaits too please ;-)

Anyone have anything to add? Was I too harsh? Did I miss anything? Be constructive, critiscise but don't generalise. Is this ' event ' fun for you or not? Did you get 150 of one species? Did you get 150 of both?! Is it ending too soon tomorrow? Bite rates too low? Was the Xmas event better or worse? Were all events just fine and you hit all targets? How could they improve? Should they read this board more to see what we're saying? Is VV an egocentric megalomaniacal delusionist who's salty? Should I reply to that woman who looks like a chipmunk on the dating site?

Thoughts?

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Spot on V!  And in the time it took to read all of this I still have yet to get a damn bite!  LOL.  This event was a complete waste of people’s time.  I love this game too, but I don’t see how you grow a game and get more players “hooked” when you have events that are anything but fun.

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VV don't waste anymore of your time. Even if they respond they will say you're doing it wrong. Even if they said it was screwed up but there's nothing that can be done now I would at least understand. But they won't admit it's broken and will say it's your fault. I now have several hours of my day freed up.

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Xmas event was fun . The Gar and St Patrick's day where not . I tried for 1 day then gifted baits away . I was looking forward to this event to spark up the game but instead it made me play less . Im not even gonna start about the Huge ( Joke ) upcoming patch that adds nothing new accept the need to purchase storage lol.

 
 
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Agree 100%!! Sam here, spent everyday (since Sunday) doing at minimum 2-3 sessions of atleast 2 hours each, finally broke the 100 mark for Rowdys this morning lol. Knew it was going to be an illogical grind so targeted the Rowdys exclusively trying to atleast get 1 challenge done but even that's not a certainty with such lil time left. Days 1-2 spent finding best spot for highest bite rate; Day 3 spent each session staring at a non moving or even dinging bobber (0 fish caught); 4-5 grinding with what seemed to be a reduced bite rate; Day 6, decent morning session, but still unlikely to tag out unless they drastically increase bite rates for the final day.

 
Btw, give the chipmunk a shot; everybody deserves a lil lovin lol   
 
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As probably close to an "average" player here, I gave up on it fairly quickly.  Instead I tried the tourney (2 hours a qualifier) and spent the rest of my time enjoying the free Michigan license.  I'll throw a bully grasshopper in here and there when waiting for the advance time limit timer for the possibility of the free bait coin, I've caught 9 rowdies and 2 leps just fishing them that way.  But as for the challenges, once I put the bite rate together with the challenge expectations I threw that idea out the window.

 

We had one person in the club get the 50 fish challenge, a couple more are close, other than that I think a lot of us just ignored it as being a useless time sink.

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I wasn't aware there was 150 rowdy goal. 

I caught one rowdy, but hooked up with at least 6 prior to the one (unless one was a leper, not sure). I knew it was a crapshoot on my gear since I was only level 19, but I managed to pull out a smaller 20 pound rowdy. I tried once more but gave up after a ridiculously long 45+ irl minute battle once I figured out the fish never wore out and there was no way I'd get it. So I'm done with it. I have a stockpile of about 200 drunken worms and 190 bully grasshoppers, so I'm happy with what I've done. It's not really fun tbh. Unless you're at least a level 30 I don't think most can even compete in this event.There needs to be some kind of endurance built in to all fish in the game to make it more realistic, a fish cannot fight that long, be pulled in to as close as 5 feet before rocketing back out to over 130 feet multiple times without being tired out. Especially against a current which should play into the player's advantage. I mean, I schooled that fish on a Nero 14' 10" pole, a prima 3500 reel, and 10 lbs. braid. Never came close to spooling me, breaking me off, or breaking my gear. I felt like I deserved that fish, or at least deserved something for the effort at a lower level, and felt like I got cheated when I finally had to break the line off due to hand fatigue.

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Excellent post and could not agree more. I did catch my 50 by last Thursday of the rowdies but gave up after that. Just too boring and slow going. So, maybe after 2 more St. Patricks days I will get my 150. Though I did not think the hat was worth it all or even the 100 more gold.

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I love to earn the rewards as much as the next fisherman, but I have a job, too.

Got both Christmas Hat and Jacket. What fun that was for everyone!

Was looking forward to adding to my Hat/Clothes collection, but knew Day 1 I would not have the time nor patience to get 150 of each. Not enough time for me to get 150 of ONE.

They should have made it sound sensitive where cracking open a beer worked like the Xmas Fireworks did. St. Paddies Day, indeed!

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Some good points there from all, thanks for the replies.

So I just pulled my challenges up and I'm on exactly 100 Rowdies ( I could have sworn it was telling me that 100 = Irish Pride Flatcap and 13 baitcoins, now it's saying it's 150. I digress ).

So that's Monday morning, Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Saturday morning and currently Saturday night fishing exclusively for Rowdies. Plus some afternoon sessions on various days.

For 100 Rowdies and 8 accidental Lepers, when location and methods were not an issue. Less than 24 hours to go and I'm only two thirds through, just fishing for one species.

 

So how, just how, is anyone supposed to complete both these challenges short of spending 20 hours a day on the game FP?

I suppose I can go for the Lepers this time next year, or possibly finish the bass off. Assuming I'm still playing that is!

October all over again.

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Just hit 150 for Rowdys!! And all I can say is zero fun to be had really, this was more of a job than a fun event. Just checked Leprechaun counter & 23 away from tier 2 (50), anyone know a good setup & spot for those? Lol if event ends tonight it's pointless but if it runs till Tuesday I may have a shot at Clover spoon too.

 
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Just pulled my stats and I'm on 131 Rowdies with 90 minutes to go. Not gonna do it.

TC, the Leps are just below the tree stumps on Missouri. I've had 13 pick up bullies when I've cast too far past the Rowdie spot. From what I've been told and seen being said, drunken worms on a 2/0 and 30 inch leader seem to be the accepted method.

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Thanks for the tip V, I'll definitely give it a shot if waters are still green after the day rollover at 8pm. Could've swore I heard it would run till update day (Tuesday), IF* it does you should definitely be able to get tier 3 for Rowdys. Regardless of completing the challenge, I still believe it was setup entirely wrong & wasn't fair to anyone especially the casual 1-2 hr a day player, which is the majority of their customer base. Hopefully future events are setup more towards the Christmas model than the Halloween & Paddys day events!! 

 
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There was a countdown on the pop ups that appear when you boot up, that countdown expires in 10 mins.

I'm #1 on the leaderboard, happy ;-)

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VN, congrats on top event fish!! My pb was 28.5?, lol only stayed in top 100 for a very short period tho. Yea I noticed that timer, but if I remember correctly the timer on the Christmas event ads expired while the event was still going, I believe?. 

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V, just tested & at Michigan the water's still green, gold/silver pots still spawning & caught 151st Rowdy (lol last 1 hopefully). So your goal is still reachable I believe. Best of luck buddy & thanks again for Leprechaun tip, after The Walking Dead/Talking Dead I'll test Missouri.

 

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Still catching myself at MO so can't go to bed until I've done it now. The water's still green and I can see a pot on the far bank.

Congrats on your 150 btw mate, rather remiss of me not to say so before :-(

 

Edit: we don't get TWD until tomorrow so don't you dare spoil it for me lol.

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No worries at all man, but much appreciated; sure I'll be returning the gesture very soon. Ahh nah, I'd never spoil the Walking Dead for someone. Best of luck on a speedy finish!!

 
 

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Yesterday, Sunday the 18th, when I started fishing for Rowdys at 8:00am, I had 46 of 50. I was already at Michigan, So I spawned in, caught 2 back to back. 48, 2 more to go for 50. Spent another hour IRL at Michigan, notta. Went to North Carolina. Caught one in 1 hour RL (49, 1 more to go). Left, went to Mud River. Fished until lunch time, not even a bite. Took a break to eat lunch. Came back on, caught one first cast. 50 of 50. But no pop up to show me that the challenge for 50 was complete...no pop-up to tell me bass jig had been delivered.

So I go to check my stats...48 of 50! What the f***k. These were hard enough to catch as it is, now the game didn't count 2. Lucky for me, I must of been in a good "window", because I caught the last two in about 15 minutes. But it really pissed me off.

 

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On 3/17/2018 at 7:36 AM, Violentvole said:

So my question is, if someone like me who spends nearly all gaming time on this game ( which amounts to more than most seeing as I only work weekend nights ) and has no trouble catching fish cannot get 150 of just ONE of the event species, how the hell is the average gamer who pops on for an hour or so here and there or when time/circumstances allow supposed to do it?

Any one who knows me from FP knows my schedule, has I am one of the average gamers. Up at 5:00am, to work by 6:00am, off at 3:00pm and home, squared away, and usually on line by 4:00pm. Fish unitl 6:30 or so, off to fix dinner, eat dinner, and clean the kitchen. An hour on the boob tube to catch up on the news and weather, and off to bed by 9:00. I can usaully manage a few more hours on the weekends, but not a lot of gaming time in the period of a week.

Due to the nature of this game, I don't think that it attracts the "younger" generation.  Everyone I know that plays FP are middle age men. And are probably in the same boat as me. Have jobs, families, and other duties that only allow them limited game time. We don't have the leisure of being able to put in 6, 8, 10 hours a day of gaming. 

So without knowing the statistics, I'm assuming that the player base for FP range in age from 30 to 65 years old. Why not try to tailor to your player base a bit more. There falling like flys out there gentlemen. If you intend on keeping FP around,  (at leat on PS4), you better start making some serious changes.

 

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From a business perspective your customer base is your company and until FP realizes that this game will never take off. Whoever approved the St. Patty’s Day and Halloween promos doesn’t know how to run a business.

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While I managed to finish both challenges, it was one of the most painful experiences I've ever experienced on a game. Excellent post violentvole, and thanks to everyone else for sharing their experiences which mirror my own. I just achieved level 40, this being my first event. I have to say I'm sceptical to ever try another. Those two dead trees on Mudwater are permanently etched onto my brain I'm afraid. Love the rewards, but can't say I'd do it again.

 

Edited to add this: If I had spent money on the dlc pack, I'd have been enraged. Seriously devs, and I know it's been said a million times already by people that have clocked more hours than me, you might rethink some of these decisions. You have a game with so much potenial. It's a great game. Start putting forth the effort and implement ideas that will make it an amazing game. For myself, I'm hooked for now. 

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