nordak76 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Just got through with the worst Cats 'n Nightcatchers I've ever been in. Normally, I'll place near or within top 10 on this event, so I know how to fish this particular event. The problem was clearly an unlucky draw on a lobby. This, as I see it, is the number 1 problem with competition inaccuracies between players. I'm not the only one that's noticed this, as I've seen veteran players type stuff like "crap lobby" in the middle of comps. Seems like I'm often in those "crap" lobbies. Please, developers, look into this. Everyone deserves equal footing when the competition is steep already. Edited May 17, 2018 by nordak76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyewhisperer Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 What does being in a “crap lobby” have anything to do with the competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmif Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Walleyewhisperer said: What does being in a “crap lobby” have anything to do with the competition? For instance, in the last catfish tourney, no one in my room caught a qualifying or even non qualifying fish for 45 minutes real time. You start to think the lobby/room is bad. I might be off but it seems in comps and especially the tourney that the "RNG" is almost assigned out in a bell curve. A few unlucky at the bottom, a few lucky at the top, and loads of mediocre in the middle. Not sure whether it is assigned individually or by lobby/room though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyewhisperer Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Interesting. I guess I haven’t played enough tournaments to see this. I thought it was individual based not lobby based for RNGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Tmif said: You start to think the lobby/room is bad. I might be off but it seems in comps and especially the tourney that the "RNG" is almost assigned out in a bell curve. A few unlucky at the bottom, a few lucky at the top, and loads of mediocre in the middle. Not sure whether it is assigned individually or by lobby/room though. This seems like a fair assessment to me, though I'm far from an expert. There does seem to be some predetermined indicator overall as to how most folks in a lobby will fair in a comp. That being said, I've seen the lucky fisherman in what seems a bad lobby turn out smelling roses. Bit of both perhaps on the RNG scale of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow of Poohlykhomyak Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 no bad lobbies, rng is acting individually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 How does one overcome insurmountably bad RNG then, as that appears to be my case in most comps I play? I'm not trying to be a sore loser or a chronic whiner, I've done ok in some comps, I'm trying to sort out how some folks' dice are continually rollin' 6's and others turn up 1's most days. Some transparency from devs would be appreciated as to how the system works. I have a feeling there are more in the know on the subject than are talking about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow of Poohlykhomyak Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) RNG and dicing is affectting, but good and stable results is angling not like in youtube videos, but own findings - extra casting spots, manage of lures, etc. These features somehow level rng influence. But all these findings are the result of hard work and exploring, exploring, exploring Edited May 17, 2018 by Shadow of Poohlykhomyak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Shadow of Poohlykhomyak said: RNG and dicing is affectting, but good and stable results is angling not like in youtube videos, but own findings - extra casting spots, manage of lures, etc. These features somehow level rng influence. But all these findings are the result of hard work and exploring, exploring, exploring Your theory works on the assumption that others have not put in the time and effort to improve much like yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow of Poohlykhomyak Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, nordak76 said: Your theory works on the assumption that others have not put in the time and effort to improve much like yourself. For someone maybe yes, but..... actually how much places of cast do you have for only chinook salmon in xtravaganza? I have at least 5 and they work in cirlce, allowing me to catch more fishes at the same period. For peacock basses at fly like butterfly I have at least 4 places working in circle and in certain time... etc etc etc etc.... You really think that watching videos of Rotacommando you will play like he does? Forget about it, he shows you 25% of his secrects.... On the whole: stop watching youtube and start to explore yourself. Sabi is nice guy, but following his videos wont give you wins... Edited May 17, 2018 by Shadow of Poohlykhomyak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) No idea, don't do xtravaganza. I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to sort out why some lobbies seem busted. I'll often get in a lobby by myself, it's sort of like being in a private room catch rate wise I've noticed. I pretty much know I'm wasting my time when that happens. I don't doubt there are players more adept at the game, I know they're there. It seems some of them think they get into bad lobbies based on what I read during comps or the fact they leave the room I'm in after nary a fish caught. If I am a complete noob that needs some sort of Jedi fish training, help me out. Edited May 17, 2018 by nordak76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow of Poohlykhomyak Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 8 hours ago, nordak76 said: No idea, don't do xtravaganza. I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to sort out why some lobbies seem busted. I'll often get in a lobby by myself, it's sort of like being in a private room catch rate wise I've noticed. I pretty much know I'm wasting my time when that happens. I don't doubt there are players more adept at the game, I know they're there. It seems some of them think they get into bad lobbies based on what I read during comps or the fact they leave the room I'm in after nary a fish caught. If I am a complete noob that needs some sort of Jedi fish training, help me out. OK, if you insist on bad lobbies, than if you regard that you stuck in such one, go to settings, just change language and reload the game, after that you will be redirected into other lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm not convinced it's always lobbies. Like I said, I do ok sometimes and go into a couple of comps feeling like I can at least hold my own. The Cats n' Nightcatchers comp is one of them. Seemed like the lobby was off based on my experience with that particular comp today. It's pretty common for me even in a regular fishing session to be catching little to nothing, only to change rooms under the same conditions and suddenly my keepnet is full from all the fish I'm catching. I'm thinking competitions may have something similar going on at times. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm apparently not the only one who holds this suspicion. This isn't going to stop me from trying or improving, but if it's an actual issue it needs looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigoskybox Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 14 hours ago, Shadow of Poohlykhomyak said: RNG and dicing is affectting, but good and stable results is angling not like in youtube videos, but own findings - extra casting spots, manage of lures, etc. These features somehow level rng influence. But all these findings are the result of hard work and exploring, exploring, exploring Exactly 100 % agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordak76 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) I mean no offense, but if I won or placed as much as you guys, I'd probably think it was by the sweat of my brow I accomplished all these finishes/near finishes as well. Maybe that's the case, or maybe it's not that simple. Either way, tight lines and keep on fishin'. Edited May 18, 2018 by nordak76 Clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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